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The hardest part is to convince your parents,relatives, friends that Germany (specifically Berlin) is pooping place to live as foreigner. I mean, they all hear and read Germany propaganda (strongest economy in EU, best country to deal with COVID bla bla bla) on global media and they think, Germany is awesome place to live. Then, when you express your frustration while living in Germany they get baffled.
The other reason why so many foreigners (mainly non EU ofc) are willing to study and work in Germany is simple. It's so much easier to migrate to Germany rather than UK, US, Canada, Australia, Netherlands, France etc In order to migrate those "real deveoped" countries, you have to be actually qualified, experienced and skilled employee. For Germany, they almost accept everyone who wants to study and work in Germany due to aging population.
I finally managed to convince my parents that, I will be leaving Germany in one year. They stopped buttering Germany when they found out, I am really upset in this country.
I am just thinking of better days ahead of me !
In all honesty, this place is a horrible place to live. The south is more conservative but a little bit more tolerable. Berlin and the north of Germany I just hate with a passion. If I had to choose I would pick southern Germany in a second. But overall, Germans are impossible to get along with just horrible bunch of people. I won’t go back to my home country because I left that for a reason. The country I dream of living in is a world away. Can’t get there without money. It’s just the worst, the worst in all of Europe. I had a pretty girl at the cash register flirt with me the other day. I didn’t reciprocate I just thought what’s the point. Nine times out of ten she’s gonna turn out to be a weirdo. They are all racist, disgusting, backstabbing two face little weasels. At this point, I don’t have any friends here because they all have betrayed me at some point. I’m bitter and a angry person. Every time I go out I go into a deep depression of thoughts past poop experiences. Hopefully, foreigners will stop coming to this place. Anyway, the buildings are all ugly and grey just the people.
To the person above: I feel exactly the same on every point. I've distanced myself from all of my friends here. I actually don't enjoy talking to any Germans anymore (if I ever could) because, and this is no exaggeration, they always focus solely on my nationality. I'm tired of being treated as a spokesperson for my country in every conversation. And even if the most attractive supermodel flirted with me I'd completely ignore it as well. After getting to know more than enough Germans you are completely right when you say that they're all weirdos. They'll be into open relationships or Berghain bathroom sex or will have borderline incest stories or something else of the sort. Berlin is just if you took the most extreme sex deviants from every other EU capital and put them in one town. It took me a while to accept that I am disgusted by ALL Germans because I didn't want to be a xenophobe. But now, if that even makes me a xenophobe, I don't even care. I honestly in my heart of hearts believe that there is something deeply wrong with basically every German.
I also try to ignore Germans as much as I can. I just am just waiting for the day I leave Germany silently while my company pays for my job related some certificates and trainings. When I got them, I will say " Auf niemals sehen" to Germany
They are the weirdest people you could ever see on the face of earth.They are just weird. They don't know how to communicate and they behave so weird in every situation. Very simple example I would like to give is the nightlife in Germany. In other countries, people go to clubs to have fun all together. They talk to each other, create the happy vibes which makes you also have fun collectively. In Germany, I feel like so bored in the clubs (I am not in Berlin btw) The people give you impression that, they are not there to have fun. You know what I mean ?
I was recently talking to one of my friend who is also foreigner in Germany. We studied together in master studies. She told me that, she works in a new company with Germans and It is much more difficult to work with Germans. She used to work in a global company with international people. I am not surprised at all. We all foreigners just endure these people and this country until the right time comes to leave.
I hope your time in Berlin is a lesson to never live in a predominantly lefty-student-antifa-feminist-gay-anarchist-'arty' city again. Go to a city that's more balanced, full of real people and real artists.
Believe me, it's not going to get any better, no matter how hard to wait or try, it will just get worse.
Agreed. But 1 thing isn't true no matter how much Germans pretend it is. Berlin isn't a student city. Median age is over 40 here. It is mostly middle aged losers here who have lost all of their ambitiob and motivation. A city of bureaucrats and dumpy old cashiers, not a dynamic city of students.
Germany sucks big time. Most people are unfriendly and don’t know how to communicate properly. Fortunately, there are some exceptions, but you have to try very hard to find them. If germans are good to you, in the 97% of the cases they want something from you.
The reason we don’t know how much Germany sucks is that they’re very good at hiding the bad things to preserve their reputation abroad.
That dictatorship mentality never disappeared from this place. Also, most Germans are so racist and they don’t know it!
I tend to agree with the sentiments on this thread. Germany is up to it's eyeballs in issues, despite it's astoundingly successful PR campaign (must be the best in all history). I sensed a dislike/disdain of foreigners among many native Germans. Ironically the issues could, over time, be resolved through people who have immigrated from more tolerant and open-minded societies.
Agoraphobia is a thing in Berlin. People get afraid to leave the flat, because of the poop they have to endure
It's only natural. If you have a rage-inducing incident 99% of the time you leave your apartment then of course your brain tracks it. But in Berlin you cannot seek refuge in your own apartment because there you just have to listen to your retarded upstairs neighbor dropping bowling balls on the floor all the darn time.
Berlin made me grateful for my home country. I just wish people in my home country understood my trauma. But I’ve told the story to a few other people, and they knew others who left Berlin. So there is still hope
My dad reminds me of a German. Teaches obedience, yells at any mistake, talks over you and likes bossing people around. Oh wait, he’s a narcissist. Germans are narcissists. Anyone else here feel they resonated subconsciously with this culture because they had abusive families? Anyone else find there are a ton of traumatized people in Berlin?
Germans masturbate too hard. They should switch hands and use lubricant.
On my way to work this morning I saw a BVG bus waiting to turn left in a bus lane. In front of it was a guy who obviously accidentally ended up in the bus lane because the street is under construction (Berlin) and it's an easy mistake to make. The guy couldn't turn because there was oncoming traffic. So the BVG driver basically just honks for 30 seconds and then goes on the intercom system that's outside the bus and yells "This is a bus lane you idiot!". Only in Germany could that happen.
The driver was to dumb to react to a situation as it didn’t fit the regular pattern he was programmes to follow. It wasn’t the drivers fault you know, thats just a programmed machine doing its job. The cyclist shouldn’t have misused the lane.
Germans are not people who can react depending on the situation. They just run a program in their head.
Moving to Berlin feels a lot like eating caviar for the first time. You've heard it talked up your entire life and everyone else eating it acts like they love it. But in reality it's disgusting, overpriced and smells terrible.
For a while you think it's just your unrefined palate or your unreasonable expectations. But eventually you get the self confidence to accept that it just sucks and all the people claiming otherwise are afraid to admit the obvious truth of the matter. Berlin sucks.
Can you guys help me? I feel like I just don't understand Germany at all. How do people start careers here? I graduated at the beginning of the coronavirus lockdown and have been looking for a job here ever since. I want to work in data analysis. I have a degree in data analytics. But every single job I can find posted anywhere here says "You must have 2-3 years of experience". In my home country my CV would be very competitive. Here I have not even got a single interview. I do have some general office experience in student jobs but I was never able to find any student job in my field. Is this normal in Germany? What am I doing wrong? I can't ask any of my classmates because they were all so annoying that I was happy when I never had to see them again.
Well, first off, it was hard starting any career before the pandemic hit. Now, it’s gonna be next to impossible to find anything. And since all the bone head Germans and other foreigners walking around like the virus is gone. Well, we’re probably going into another lock down soon. Every thing is just fuckery. And if the pandemic wasn’t here. I would tell you to run to another European city before you end up being a waiter or working in hotel for the rest of your life. When this pandemic is over you should leave before this city ruin your life. Like it has so many other people with University degrees. This place is not really for young University graduates, not really. Again, this hell hole will destroy your career before it even begins.
You could always just say you have 3 years experience... these fucktards only want to feel like they are getting experienced people.. when you show up and prove to be better than all the other brain dead idiots they will push you up to CEO.. UNLESS, you don't look German or speak the language perfectly ...
I am from a mid-sized toen in Canada. I came here for my M.Sc. and thought I would stay. But I didn't realise how bad this place it. In my hometown average salaries are actually 100% higher than here.
^thats why I left. Well because Canadians are insecure and fantasize Europe, toronto is very corporate many venues closed and it’s gotten extremely expensive. However there is potential to make money and it’s REAL multicultural and not racist. Not xenophobic either. Growing up In toronto I had friends from all races. Only when I got to Berlin did I realize how broken up and racist and xenophobic people can be. It made me grateful for my home. I’m white but I had to leave, I can’t live with such backwards mentality around me.
Yes really 6 months. Using mostly indeed and linkedin. A guy I went to uni with wrote me yesterday and suggested meeting over a beer. Said he also had huge problems. Even when he has made it to an interview the companies just quit ghosted him afterwards. He said it has happened more than 10 times.might be because he is a foreigner.
People have mean resting-expressions. Full of doubt, cynicism, and Schadenfreude. Seeking the negative
On the street people squint at me and openly give me weird looks. Like, didn''t you ever learn to modulate your facial expressions? If you want to stare at people but claim it's not rude, then at least rearrange your expression into something pleasant/neutral.
So many times I feel like Germans never learned basics of interacting with other people, emotional basics, communication basics, courtesy basics. I feel like I'm dealing with..people who missed some basic developments.
"as if we just thought their culture magically changed since the Nazis."
For a long time I would have thought saying this kind of thing was unfair. It's not. It's the truth.
Germans still have the same mentality they did 70 years ago. They still blame everything on foreigners. They still think non-Germans are their underclass. This country is the worst place on earth. I have no idea why the international press spends all its time sucking Germany's dick.
I love how they think they have an awesome accent in English. Tschoemeniiii
Well a big part of German high school is writing down word for word long passages that teachers dictate aloud.
Luckily I wasn't here for high school, but I can tell you with 100% honesty that in German university we were taught exactly what was tested and given practice exams in most subjects that had the exact type of questions as the ones on the real exam, just different numbers.
Berlin with give PTSD sooner or later. Found this interesting youtube comment. For all of you guys out there with PTSD and those that will get it. Also you will understand Germans better after reading this.. That's why you can't have peace with them.
''As someone who had PTSD, I'd offer it was because combat was the place they most felt at home. Being a civilian becomes too difficult to contend with—everything seems phony and shallow and layered under unnecessary BS while you walk around half-expecting the facade of civility to crumble at any time, but it doesn't (Except for when it does and guess who's ready!). You feel alienated because the few people you trust don't understand this kind of overactive ennui mixed with suspicion. This also leads to difficulties with the civilian environment and its people because you're always ready to go full on attack, which can lead to extreme overreactions (either externalized or internalized) that scare the poop out of the normals or else you hold it in and that can lead to other problems without learning or developing healthy coping skills. But in violent situations, the reactions lead by the circuits of the rewired brain are entirely appropriate. For all the chaos and horror of war, there's a kind of simplicity and honesty that can be missed. This isn't the same for everyone with PTSD, but that's how I interpret the story of this Spartan through the lens of how my own PTSD manifested. I agree that it says a lot about Spartan society in that, being so focused on warfare, it's almost as if it was largely set up for and by people with PTSD (which is probably close to the truth) and to prime people who aren't prone to develop PTSD for function in that environment.''
Germans default answer is to compare themselves to America condescendingly, meanwhile America couldn’t give a poop about Germany. The only Americans Who moved to Germany were lured there by promises of a “better” society because German media puts out a ton of propaganda to salvage their reputation (thanks to the invention of the internet), or trash trust fund kids who want to club, or broke butts that want to leech of welfare or move to Berlin because the USA is expensive for artists
No rich, sensible Americans would even think of moving to your trash city. There are way better opportunities in the USA if you have a high income, Idiots.
And try as a German with your poop attitude even DREAMING to last one minute in the USA. You’d be knocked down so fast. Time to keep your dumb butt opinions locked down in Germany with your dumb butt life and rent until you get evicted when you’re old because you could never afford to buy or own anything in life thanks to your “superior” country.
I wish germans would shut up about their xenophobic USA sentiments because they hate every other nation as well, USA is just easiest for all of them to verbalize as being socially acceptable. It’s a good thing we stopped you Nazis from taking over the world, resent us forever.... it’s a good thing there is such a big international population in Berlin who are transient so once they return home they can tell others how you haven’t changed so the world can keep an eye on you. Germans are not to be trusted.