This is the only site I am aware of on the whole internet that doesn't censor, well done to the operator of BerlinHater, you deserve a free-speech award.
I feel I just have to get out of Germany! This isn't going to happen anymore. This mentality is appalling!!! :((((
this site is actually worse than the city itself - and the city really sucks
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Poor German teachers. Starting salaries @ 3600 EUR per month for babysitting children a few hours a day and now they can't even politically indoctrinate children without fear of being criticised on the internet anymore. What's the world coming to?
www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/streit-um-afd-meldeportal-an-berliner-schule-entbrannt-15890697.html
A true lolbrotarian has to hate on teachers (the true powerbrokers of society, wielding mind control influence yet still somehow nothing but glorified babysitters) and bring up wages before tax so they sound somewhat big. Also to qualify simultaneously love and hate free speech while creating lists of your political enemies, you know, just in case.
I know that actually considering facts when making a rebuttal isn't one of your strengths as you routinely respond to any and all posts here with nothing more than your feelings, but here's some food for thought for your petty little brain:
- Teachers don't earn wages, they earn salaries. And the number quoted above is the net salary of teachers who were hired after mid-2017. They earn 5100 EUR pro month gross. That is almost 50% more than an average salary in Germany (it's even more than 50% than a median salary in Germany). Teachers also don't work full-time. In Berlin the average teacher works 26 hours per week plus a few hours to grade schoolwork. It's a part-time job by definition.
2. There is not even any guarantee of free speech in Germany. And even if there were, the only free speech component here is protecting the future free speech of children who are being unduly influenced in their politics during their formative years. What other job allows an employee to go off on wild tangents about their political views and grossly mischaracterize their opponents? Try that in any other customer- or public-facing role and see how quickly you'll be terminated. Unless it's in Berlin and you're ranting in favor of die Linke. Hell, most apartment buildings in Berlin restrict the free speech of tenants more by not allowing them to display political flags/signs.
This is just further proof that Germans hate and fear any form of accountability. If this were an initiative from die Linke or SPD and it were blacklisting teachers that support the AfD the media and thus the average German would eat it up.
All in had to do is check your SALARY claim to see that you're full of sh!t as always when your type makes points so weak you need to make up easily verifiable numbers.
3183,76 - 3760,43 before tax for teachers in Berlin.
www.oeffentlichen-dienst.de/news/69-gehalt/300-grundschullehrer-gehalt-lehrergehalt.html
You hate accountability like what we'll find out about your all teachers 26 hour claim (ha fking ha, so out of touch) and the dumb comparison that a cashier can't talk politics so no one can.
I'm not surprised you hate teachers because they probably reminded you that you need to make coherent statements not fraught with inaccuracies, contradictions and out right lies.
Since there is no initiative from any other side like the one from the afd nobody cares about your detached hypotheticals but are more interested how these 'overpaid' half time working baby sitters are somehow also hardcore political operatives without accountability. Clean your room and learn to be precise in your speech.
> Begins final paragraph with incorrect subject-verb agreement and ends it with lecture of precision of speech.
Oh look I found a superficial contradiction! I win according to your rules.
Looking yet again past your childish pettiness all I see is another mischaracterization by a mindless Berlin Lefty. Either you're too stupid to understand the numbers you looked up yourself or your're feigning stupidity to try to piss further. I'll explain it like you're a child because mentally you are.
5100 EUR* is the calculation of a full-time equivalent position which is the only way to meaningfully compare salaries between full- and part-time employees. Indeed teachers actually earn only 10% more with their part-time jobs (the 26 hour statistic an average of all school teachers provided by KMK - look them up yourself if you want) than an average full-time employee's salary (+22% versus a median German full-time salary), which translates into 49% more versus an average salary if calculated as an actual full-time position and +60% versus a median German salary. No matter how you slice it these retarded teachers are paid too much, which is not even the point.
And we don't even need to argue about hypotheticals. Nikolai N. was recently fired from being a teacher for spreading the wrong political opinions OUTSIDE the classroom to willing participants on youtube. No media outrage, no illegal petitioning at schools, nothing. You can't reconcile that with now suddenly being concerned about the rights of teachers to spread their political opinions INSIDE the classroom to a captive audience. His youtube videos seem to be stupid conspiracy theories but who cares? He hasn't been convicted of any crimes and so far there's no public information suggesting he peddled this trash in the classroom. But tossing him to the curb is fine because he had problematic beliefs? I sure hope we all stay on the right side of politics, now matter how arbitrary that designation is becoming each day. Dig a little and there are countless other such cases despite the notoriously hush hush german legal system.
Looking forward to your reeeeeeeeeeeeply. Honestly don't know why you visit this website considering you just argue in justification of everything about Germany. I'd be inclined to think you're one of those long-term unemployable Stasi Zersetzung engineers but we all know that no Earner German above the age of 30 speaks English.
* www.berliner-zeitung.de/berlin/senatsbeschluss-kuenftige-grundschullehrer-verdienen-5100-euro-im-monat-26875734
You somehow can't manage to tell the difference between brutto and netto and are not able to read really basic data.
Again you have to make up working hours as if you have any insight there to make your broken math 'work'. I guess that's why you hate teachers because they remind you of how you fail at basic things.
Anyway, Lefty Stasi reee etc. you're such an NPC it hurts, but sure, reasonable points expressed on YouTube and all. It's quite telling you link nothing about your martyr but tell us everything about him and how we should care.
You jump the gun as always illustrating ALL teachers as good earners although the article you link says 400 people (under new education standards) are being the first to earn that besides implying that they're not supposed to earn that because you're a node.js lolbrotarian hatenerd. Why should anybody believe you're arguing in good faith if you constantly misconstrue information because what you're really trying to say can't stand alone. You're not doing yourself any favours by forcing your points like that.
I don't argue in favor of Germany that has an insane amount of issues, I argue against your ham handed super transparent comical framing of what's going on.
If it's Lefty to say pay the police, fire department, nurses, paramedics, teachers, trash services etc. more, the same and good money vs someone who makes a good interface for a food ordering app, and give them the resources to get better and train then I'm a Lefty ... oh yeah sorry I forgot the big issue here are frozen peaches.
I have spotted someone from the Czech Republic a few times in this chat. I wonder if people in CZ behave better than people in Germany? Personally, I would say no! I lived in Prague for two years, but I also lived in the Year of London and in New York and I was in Washington for a while. I have to confess that I enjoyed the city of Washington. Yes, people in Berlin are probably very hostile, or maybe they just look like it. I'm going to leave Berlin because I've had nothing nice here in a year and a half. It seems to me that in Berlin I experience far more stress than in New York. It's really weird coming. Why don't I know that. Perhaps I would recommend local people to be less paranoid. But I would also recommend that people in the Czech Republic and London be less paranoid. I wonder why people nowadays are so strange? Similarly aggressive people like Berlin are the people of London. Personally, I would have stopped offending the Germans because they are not just Germans who behave strangely. When I lived in Prague, I suffered from an incredible loneliness and with the local people there could not normally talk and when you wanted to go out with someone, so no one had ever had time. Stop offending the Germans, because this problem is perhaps more global. People have stopped weighing each other. This problem is not only for Germans!
Post Author: I do not want to ban anyone else's opinion and I would like to say that in Berlin I feel hostility and disdain among people. If the local style is just like that, I really don't understand it and I look forward to leaving here after the new year and forgetting this town. I don't want to insult anyone because of everything, and I won't insult the Germans. I read here about people who lost everything in Berlin. It's gonna be awful. Yes, I think Berlin is really awful but London wasn't much better five years ago. I think insulting all the Germans is also stupid. In any case, it is a matter of Germans that they cannot behave nicely either to each other. I don't have any nice experiences from Berlin. Unfortunately. It was utterly wasted time here. I was born near Venice in Italy if you're interested in where I come from. ;)
Enough time has passed since this happened so I can write it here now. A few months ago I walking home at night from Alexanderplatz at like 9 or 10 pm and when you go up the stairs towards Alexa I saw some scraggly little teenager/20-something German drunk as hell and pissing in the corner. freaking sick of retards like this, I slammed his face into the wall and everyone just looked but said nothing. The guy was really mad but too freaking retarded to do anything. He got piss all over his pants and sneakers and I just casually walked away as he tried to put his penis away and figure out what to do. The only bad part is that I'm sure he's gonna describe this to his friends (or probably parents as I doubt he lives alone) as an encounter with a crazy person who attacked him for no reason. Seriously considering carrying pepperspray to broken these krauts up even more easily.
When someone in public masturbates, you'll have to tolerate it, because this is perfectly normal in Berlin. This is what the Germans like! Then, when the Germans start doing things abroad and someone breaks their noses, the Germans still feel bad because they just think they can behave like they are at home. I know a lot of similar cases from Prague!!!
OP let me guess: then you woke up from your dream being a tough guy, cried a bit about your miserable life, had some booze and pills in that filthy basement you call your home and posted that story here because you're such a strong keyboard warrior. go hang yourself, nobody will miss you
I don't know if the guy above really hit a guy but just reading the comments under it that are probably all from the same guy judging from the language used is pretty telling about the kind of trash that lives in this city. Low level scum that thinks they have some kind of right to piss not only in public spaces but in public spaces that are heavily frequented. Glad I'm leaving in 6 months.
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I made a trip to the island of Usedom which is less than a 3-hour drive from Berlin. It's a nice place, but sadly it's full of German rich people here, and most importantly, there are those from the capital city. Today I had a very unpleasant experience with local people. There are terribly bad people in Germany! When I get back to my country, I don't think I'll ever treat German tourists nicely. I'm getting really mentally ill from Germans!
LMAO someone please explain economics to the Germans.
www.zeit.de/politik/deutschland/2018-11/arbeitsmarkt-langszeitarbeitslose-staatlich-gefoerdert-jobprogramm-hubertus-heil
"Die große Koalition will mit einem Programm im Umfang von vier Milliarden Euro Arbeitslose in Jobs bringen. Dabei sollen deren Löhne subventioniert werden."
Currency manipulation and an influx of cheap refugee labor isn't enough, now they indirectly subsidizing German businesses. Exportweltmeister my ass.
German wages are already pretty low keeping them somewhat competitive. If you read the article the measure is aimed at the long term unemployed meaning that no company wants to hire them anyway for various reasons (knowing this page there will be cries about moochers). It also mentions that jobs will be created around maintaining parks and roads besides suggesting social work places like for religious institutions or Caritas as they're obviously more likely to have the patience and the will to take on the unemployable. This all doesn't smack of giving such an edge to companies exporting globally but more of a center left effort to get people off the dole and into any kind of work (with an emphasis on local and community) eventually reducing the cost of keeping them on benefits.
The article says the employers, which include religious institutions (which already have too much leeway in not adhering to labor laws) and Caritas are happy about the funds and that new jobs will be created in roles such as park maintenance and agriculture (by the way, the only industry in Europe that has been powerful enough to secure funds from the EU budget) but both of these statements are just conjecture on the part of the author. There are no restrictions on the industry in which employers operate and of course the SPD and the (and I honestly mean this as neutrally as possible) liberal media like Zeit Online aren't going to use Volkswagen, Zalando and Osram as examples of beneficiaries. There are still plenty of no-skill jobs that need to be done in Germany and big corporations would be stupid not to exploit this.
I think you misread bauhof as bauernhof so it doesn't really mention agriculture. I can see why you'd see the social work part as conjecture since it's part of a separate sentence after the 'quote' from the CDU guy but it can also be read as part of continuing relaying what that person said (the paragraph also ends with references to the CDU views) since it fits the context and how the CDU sees the religious institutions and Caritas. It also mentions they pay more than minimum wage.
I agree that die zeit is on the conservative side and won't necessarily highlight how big business would benefit but I also think you're overestimating the need for no skill jobs, like for example car production is near fully automated and there's some skill, even if not much, to work a sht job at Zalando. Those positions would be filled if they really need them to be since they're by definition low paying and many can do them, it's hard to imagine business waiting around for this so they can start signing 5year minimum contracts as part of the conditions. It's easier for example to have healthy and young eastern Europeans on Werkvertrag that you can get rid of if need be, lacking rights etc. I'm not saying there won't be any businesses possibly taking advantage(if anything my guess would be that smaller businesses might) I just don't see how a bunch of handicapped and/or longtime out of work people with no hard skills are going to be such a massive contribution to productivity that's probably also why the suggestions run along community and social work. Germany is lacking apprentices and skilled labour and has 'stocked up' on the young low/no skill people and is struggling (for many reasons) already to find appropriate work for them.
Berlin Wall is the most boring thing in Berlin.
I find it funny how Germans love to talk Trash about other countries,they can't even see how degenarate and Fuucked up their own country is.
Berlin Daily Challenge:
Find a bridge in Berlin that doesn't reek of urine.
Walk across Oberbaumbrücke without being asked if you want to buy drugs at least 3 times.
Sit in a park for an hour in the evening without seeing 5 pensioners collecting beer bottles.
Sit in a park for five minutes without seeing someone publicly urinating.
Ask a cashier a simple question without provoking an unwarranted sarcastic response.
Walk down Panorama Straße at night without being threatened by drunks with broken beer bottles.
Walk by refugee housing as a woman without being stared at and catcalled.
Sit through a university lecture without hearing your professor's political opinions.
Change trains at Kottbusser Tor without seeing anyone shooting up in broad daylight.
Visit a doctor's office without having to wait 6 hours.
See a specialist without having to wait 6 months.
Ask another person how they're doing and actually get an answer.
People that call themselves “free spirit”. You’re a free spirit when you get read of your flesh and bones case, therefore dead. Meanwhile, regardless what drugs you put in you, tattoos on you or whateveros, you’re still as humanly as possible. You need to eat, sleep, poop and travel in plans and trains. Your spirit needs money, hence a job. Maybe that’s sad and depressing, but get a darn reality check. These superficial ones have no idea how trapped you are when you cannot afford food, roof over your head etc.
One of the most disgusting scene I’ve seen was a bunch of Western backpackers “street performing” in Bangkok to get money for their trips. Ungrateful f*ckers. Free spirit should be called “Entitled male genitalia that knows no struggle”.
Also, bunch of ho-bags acting Yogi and tantric and love spreading. No, honey.. You’re a ho that doesn’t like to be called a ho, so you act like a liberated superior being to hide you hoeness under it. I respect prostitutes more than these hippie scums. At least they’re owning it transparently. Plus, they’re smart enough to charge for it.
Nonetheless, we all die one day. Too bad some make nothing out of their existence on Earth.
Namaste
Albanians and Chechen Refugees are disgusting Bastards
Everywhere I go, I constantly hear Turks shout at the top of their lungs. On the street, in shops, in cafes.