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When I first came to Berlin I knew hardly any German, those were the good old days, anyway, I kept hearing people saying "alles klar", and I thought they were saying Alice Clarr, and wondered why everyone was talking about her, so I asked a german what Alice Clarr does, is she a singer or actress, and of course he said, "I've never heard of her". Eventually I embarrassingly found out it was Alles Klar.
Anyone still of Facebook is a dumb-khunt and a phuckwit
Most people born in Germany but with immigrant parents feel they come from the parents’ country of origin. Even those that feel German are considered “Ausländer” by German, no matter how they look. That says a lot about the society here. But then again, it wouldn’t be much of a problem if they didn’t look down on all foreigners (except maybe Japanese people). Truly these people have learned nothing from their history.
It's weird to me because in the US where I'm from, people generally call everyone who is a permanent resident there American. Even formal places kind of keep that line of reasoning, like at immigration checks at airports. If you have a greencard you can use the American citizen line. But in Germany people don't even consider you German if you have a German passport, look German and have a German-sounding name. This is the weirdest form of hypernationalism I have ever seen.
I know lots of immigrants who say the same. They also say that they don't want to be part of the German society. They find germans to be mentally ill. Even when they are in foreign countries for holidays or work they always say that they are from Turkey or Italy or Spain or Lebanon.
So sad. Shame on those germans
They don't want to be German, for starters.
Perhaps that is their way to cope with the discrimination they face at all levels. I don't excuse (muslim) immigrants' reticence to integrate, but if you were constantly treated like you are less simply because of your origins, you would also want to stay away from society.
I wouldn't say arabics or turks are racists. once I saw how a black guy was controlled by German police in neukolln.
Police officers were very rude. Seconds later as the immigrants, Turks and arabs saw the situation they all stopped and screamed at the police and insulted them extremely hard. The situation got so dangerously that the police officers hat to call for another police crew.
I find immigrants in 2. and 3. generation to be very open and cool and so un-german.
Yeah well German law is complete bullshit. Police can just stop you and demand identification and search you for no reason at all. I'm not saying they do it all the time but it has happened to me for no reason enough times to be pissed off. And recording police is basically illegal in Germany (like everything else).
Do all eu countries have the same friends since grade school or is it just the Germans . I know also Swedish can be this way..
Poles, too.
Building real friendships past a certain age is very difficult. Some might even say you should give up on real friendship altogether if you don't have any once you reach a certain stage in your life.
That said, Germans often betray their friends. I wish I had an Euro for each time a German has told me that his girlfriend cheated on him with the "best friend". I thought it was an American thing.
I am from the EU and my best friends are some of the ones I made in high school. It’s true that building real friendships past a certain age is very difficult. Building friendships with Germans at any age is impossible. I’ve seen how my ex treated her friends. She ignored them all the time to be with me. Not cool.
I am from non EU and we make friends any of our life stage.When you were teenagers or younger like same pop stars or hobby can build friendahip but when you grow up easily find that the attitute to the life is not sharable anymore.So we open for it.From work,or sportsclub,during trip or even from online community.But here friends are only people you know from Kindergarten and or yes maximum year 12.And others are what?I don't understand this.Closed mind people ever.Same like going Gymnasium or not.Life already set.Friendshop already set.One thing they are very wide open for are casual sex,open relationshio,abandoing parentshood.For those they are very open and whatever can be possible.
Everyone outside Germany assumes I make 5000 euros per month and live in the most liberal and progressive country in Europe. They think technology here is top notch and germans are efficient at everything.
Even if I try to tell them how wrong they are on so many levels, they refuse to believe me.
How has this country so good PR? It’s unbelievable
I too get irritated when someone praises Germany as some sort of great country where you can make bank. I never met a German who made more than 3000 Euros a month.
And even then..if someone in Germany truly earned 5000...what is the point if you are miserable? No freedom of speech. No way to own a house. Media entertainment sucks. People around you are unhappy and make no qualms about it. Depressive, grey landscape. Politics are a circus. Food sucks. Lots of crime. Dirt everywhere. Rules everywhere. Ugly women. Weak men. Degenerate society and culture.
OP here. Thank you for the accurate comments. It’s true, even if I did manage to make 5000 per month, all Germans would be extremely jealous of me and hate me even more. They don’t like it when other people are successful, especially if they’re foreigners
Yes exactly.I have seen so many documentaties about How.Germany is great.Very good social welfare system people enjoy their life blabla:Yes i can see the happiness from.Harzt4.German technologg and punctuality:Yes I can see that from always broken or delayed Sbahn and trains.Gemans know what they did in the past:Yes feel bad what thry did but still think that they are the best people in thw world Aryan.Hahahahaahahaha
Whoever does the marketing and PR for Berlin is a genius. How can you convince hipster from all over to this idiot when they could really go anywhere else and gather ? Boggles my mind
I put my life on hold until I leave this country
Antifa called the cops on a friend. Started a legal prodedure. Xenophobic towards my friend, yet the guy is “working with migrants”.
Wtf
I left Berlin to live somewhere else in Germany, in a small city. Best decision ever (I can’t leave Germany yet, so yeah). There’s real nature where nobody goes or pisses or does those terrible things Berliners do in parks. Nobody cares about you and if you’re not social and don’t want interactions with locals, it’s paradise. If you can’t get out of Germany, get out of Berlin. That city is cancer
Went to a restaurant with a German. the German waiter only talked and looked at the person I was with and gave them a menu but not me. Went right after to a house viewing. The owner only looked and talked to the German person I was with yet I was the one viewing the house. In Italy we call this Maleducazione. Or lack or education. Which I think is very fitting for people who act like 6 year old's and call it "directness" or "efficiency", Germany is a marketing machine nothing else.
I was invited a German friends family dinner.Nobody asked me any queation and even they forgot my plate.I brought a bottle of good Truffle oil for the gift.They even did not look at what it is.Probably thought some olive oil.But there was a Italian guy who is a fiance of one of the girl in the family.He was the only one said "Wow Truffle!" And making small talk to me.Yes the german has ettiquute at all for everything.
I was a +1 at a wedding of a friend of an ex once. There was a larger circle of friends that had known each other for years along with their partners (all German). None of them spoke to me, asked me anything at all or even smiled or did anything welcoming at all. After that I decided I am never going to any kind of event with majority Germans ever again.
That is racism. Plain and simple. Basically ignoring a person because they are from somewhere else.
The worst part is that those are usually the Germans that sport "refugees welcome!" t-shirts, sponsor a child in Africa and buy fair-trade products to help the subhumans in the third world.
I'd rather hang out with a Neonazi. At least he is honest and straightforward about his dislike of foreigners.
for people who act like 6 year old's and call it "directness" or "efficiency",
So true! I can't tell you how many times I get the feeling that germans have stunted emotional intelligence, like they didn't develop properly and didn't learn the basic things I did in childhood. Maybe it comes from being raised by the children of the nazi generation, idk
Values are so twisted here, it's unbelievable.
Walked past a small park today. 3 drunk men were sitting on a bench, drinking in broad daylight. Right next to the park there was a recycling container for glass. A woman was throwing some bottles in. 3 police officers were also standing right next to the park. Now - take a guess whom one of the police officers approached to tell them off. Was it the 3 drunks, loitering in the park, seemingly keeping off women, children and the elderly from entering the park? Ha! Of course not! It was the woman who dared to throw her bottles into a container on a public holiday! How dare she! Think about all the noise from the glass! The order must be obtained!
Living here is like living in a parallel universe, where right is wrong and wrong is right.
where do you get tested for STIs in Germany?
www.berlin.de/ba-mitte/politik-und-verwaltung/aemter/gesundheitsamt/zentren/artikel.248356.en.php
"Dear clients,
please notice our different attitude in medical practice compared to your english/american/canadian or our other european health services:
– we don´t offer general check up´s for all sexual transmitted diseases at once
– we try to find out after a long and individual counselling talk of 20-30 minutes your personal risk for one or more infections after unprotected sexual contact.
This is completely different than to what you are used in your homecountries."
Is it just me, or do others get pisssed off when the krauts often say "of course'
Professional life in Germany is appalling. I had sales manager talking to me with bad English and with a condescending tone. Managers - especially when they are white German males - have no idea about social skills. You find yourself sitting in front of an arrogant male genitalia who grumpily interrogates you about your work. You can only survive here if you work for an international company, with a manager outside of the country.
I’ve had the worst working experience here in Germany of all the countries I’ve lived in. True, you should never work at a company with all Germans. They will talk about you behind your back, bullied/mobbed you and make you feel unwelcome. German managers will play head games and make you think your work isn’t good. In truth they just don’t like you because you are a foreigner. At first, you think maybe it’s just this job. You go to another job and maybe this time it’s more foreigners but you find out it’s the same shit. If you don’t have the money to leave then it’s better to take state assistance than work here. Take state assistance and figure out how to get out. Luckily Germany isn’t a gun country like America. I promise you there would be a whole lot of work place shooting in this poop hole. These creepy Germans make me freaking sick!!!
My first few weeks at my current job felt VERY awkward because no one talked to me or asked md to join them for lunch or anything. But then i noticed they are also silent amongst themselves and never go to lunch in groups. It is actually considered weird to say hello in the morning or goodbye in the evening.
Basically when you're working with Germans you better get ready to talk shop and nothing else. There's no "how was your weekend" or "how are you" or anything even after you were sick or went on holiday. They find it weird to talk about private stuff and think they are showing respect by not asking personal questions. They like to have a clean professional divide between work and private life.
I don't know If this country really needs external workforce.
I know so many people who came to Germany to study - including myself- ( masters, Phd) and after graduation they were not able to land into a job for months and eventually, they gave up. Some of them decided to move on to other country (Holland, Austria, UK, France, Brazil) and they managed to find great jobs in less than a month. They all have engineering or business degrees such as IT project management masters.They were also not able to speak any local language but obviously, that was not showstopper in France, Austria, Brazil or Holland. They are all happy that they decided to leave Germany.
I also have couple friends who decided to stay and managed to find jobs. Myself also. I was so naive that, I was considering Germany as good place to work. It is not obviously. All others who decided to stay have been working for 50.000 € per year gross and looking for opportunities to move on.
I need to keep working here at least two more years to be able to support my move to other country. I also need to find a new job because I was resigned before Covid situation and my prospective employee decided not to onboard me.
What are your experiences ?