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Do you guys know any German who make friends with expat ? you’ve been here a long time where are your German friends ?
And then the expats leave constantly but the Germans still go on business as usual, never wondering why everyone left, but still everyone left and they have to keep making friends, and then people keep leaving? If it was so great then why would they leave? HUH
i have some kind of group of ex co workers, all german girls. let me tell you - there is always distance, even when you visit each other and have "conversations". i tried to be friends with the german men - no luck, they simply dont have the ability for empathy. its time to let this question be and accept the fact that they even cant be "real" friends with each other.
in the beginning one should define the word friendship. for them it isn't the same as for us.
I have German friends. You have to figure out which are your friends because they get free English lessons and who is your friend, because they are your friends. The ones who are only looking to practice their English will eventually vanish. Your co-workers do not want to be your friends. In Germany there is a clear separation between worklife and personal life. Just an fyi. That is how it is, it does not have anything to do with you.
How many stereotypes in a few lines.
I do have German friends, one of them one of my best friends indeed. And we used to be co-workers.
I used to live in the UK and all the expats there were complaining of the exact same about Brits.
Guess what? The majority of my best friends are British.
People are just people everywhere and from time to time, self reflection good do one good.
One thing is not liking the culture, another blaming every single citizen of that country which, ironically, is what the Germans in this site are blamed of.
Germans have a different definition of friend and foreigner. In Germany a friend is someone you went to school with for 12 years because classes aren't ever mixed up amd you get used to the same people. Also in Germany a foreigner is someone who has even a drop of non German blood - i.e. Stefan, whose mom moved to Germany from Austria when she was 3, is a foreigner. Only way to be friends with a German is to suck at their butts and fawn over krautkulture.
It sounds like horseshit but Germans really mean something different when they say "friend" in English as opposed to when they say "Freund" in German. They think Germans are inherently deeper and that German friendships are more serious and valuable. But I'm sure anyone who's been here longer than 3 months has heard the droning monologue about that topic.
You will only love Berlin if you come from a poorer country like Egypt or Brazil or like Are a refugee and even then you won’t like germans. But even I heard a Brazilian refer to Berlin as “third world”. Even all of EU hate germans. Even Chinese hate germans (because of germans stupid racism for them for no reason during corona).
But the only people I have heard who love Berlin like LOVVVEEEEE after a long time are from USA
before I moved to Berlin, I nearly fetishized the stereotype tall and blonde German men (that I hardly even saw in that city_). Then when I arrived and got to know some of them, I was so repulsed. I was single the two years I was there. thankful everyday I realized Berlin was a poop and thankful everyday the men were also poop , thankful everyday that I didn't end up there forvere, thankful I never married one or had kids with one, and mostly thankful for berlinhater
at first I thought just my school was a scam. so I dropped out. then I realized all of berlin was a scam.
How could we have not known the truth about Berlin? Actually I had 3 people’s warnings but they were more subtle, and I thought it had more to do with their personal circumstances than with myself. But the real truth is completely awful. With so many expats coming still, how can nobody know? But maybe some people go to Berlin because they really are that trash. That kind of trash THRIVES in Berlin long term. No responsibilities, can party til you’re 90, no need to have any kind of assets or career, act like a compete nincompoop etc . Ha.
If you’re interesting and creative, you may move to Berlin. But if you are sane and not disgusting, you eventually leave.
Just got off the phone with a friend in Berlin. They haven’t had an easy time in 5 years and just need the entry level experience now that they have the job before they can leave. What is wrong with this place. “The best place” yet people only stay for entry level experience and even that takes time.
I had 8 + years experience and a midsenior level job on my CV and all I got offered was a customer service position for a crappy startup. I packed my stuff and left that joke of a city.
I'm still in Germany and although here is better than Berlin, I can't cope with the culture.
I find this country to be surprisingly backward, I never would have imagined that the richest country in Europe would be like that.
I can't wait to leave for good, shame I'm stuck here for now due to this Corona situation...
Germans:
- never self reflect. If anything goes wrong in their lives, it’s never their fault. The world is against them
- never say thank you, unless they have to because of a rule or a law
- never offer to help, unless they have to because of a rule or a law
- Don’t care about other people. Everything is always about them, them, them. They act like no one else is around
- never have empathy. Their huge ego doesn’t let them
- never treat you. Ever. Ever.
And then they wonder why 1 in 2 marriages fails. Nation of troubled single mothers and kids that have 4 fathers each
someone keeps downvoting comments here. a german is actually lurking on berlinhater and instead of self reflecting and wondering why we hate berlin, just want to do the shamless self promotion of Berlin
It's the German guy who wrote this on an earlier comment:
"That with Alcatraz was sarcasm you moronic millennials."
I honestly don't even mind hearing a German try to defend this dumb city but the adult thing to do would be to actually craft an argument instead of just nitpicking random bullshit. Oh well, he is a German after all.
everyday something goes wrong in germany. I've been trying to order boxes online for my subletter to pick up, so the rest of my things can be shipped home. First, I order the boxes. They just simply don't arrive. Then I order from another company, they arrive in the wrong size. Finally I pay 30 euro so boxes will be delivered quickly, they say "delivered", but don't say with who in the building and the tracking number didn't work. I started to get that internal panic today and It reminded me why I left. That internal panic happened almost daily there from daily mundane things, until I had an underlying level of stress and was on edge constantly. Not to mention, things not making sense and getting lectured/made fun of by Germans and other negative people.
you speak to the depths of my soul. since being here the underlying level of stress from everyday life here is building up. i can never feel in peace with me and the world around me, my soul just cannot un-stress as there are too many things going wrong in this place.
Can't count the number of times I've just said "fuck it" instead of signing up for a course, going to the doctor, purchasing something that I couldn't carry, visiting a "friend" because the entire ordeal you have to go through is just such a darn hassle.
You speak the truth!!! Every aspect of daily life just seemed so much harder here until I developed a crippling anxiety disorder and had to spend thousands at English-speaking "therapists" who were not actual medical psychiatrists because those are impossible to get here.
It all started within 3 months of moving here. I was doing an internship (unpaid, you know, it's Berlin). I asked my boss to recommend someone who I could use as a private tutor once-a-week to learn German. The person recommended someone who she knew was studying English. The person immediately told me "Oh we can do a language exchange, you do not have to pay men." She cancelled the first meeting at the last minute. Then she never showed up for anything. Since then I have been through 4 German teachers. I have also taken courses at the Volkshochschule in tandem. The private teachers never prepare. If I am lucky, they will photocopy a page from Der Spiegel and expect us to discuss this. My best teacher was actually from France. Another one was from Hungary. The native German ones are completely useless.
Everyone here looks like they smell. Oh wait, they do.
Can we talk about Germans tightness??
Bill time, no one treats each other, always separate.
Date time, each pays separately.
Toilet time, pay for it.
Want a bag for your shopping you paid for alreadyy, pay for it.
Collect bottles and have to sort them yourself in piles of rubbish taking up space and smelling in your flats, then carry them to pfand (deposit) machines to get a few pennies back.
Cost of water.
Cost of electricity.
Cost of Gas.
Cost of TV license whatever it is
When you buy a property the buyer has to assume all expenses from the estate agent even though they are selling it to you.
Contracts that auto-renew TWENTY FOUR months and require you to cancel before 3 months. Your consumer rights here are abysmal.
Discounts in supermarkets equate to 20 cent off.
I went to a german friends house gathering. She charged us for the meal she made 5 euro each... it was all out of cans from the bottom shelf (ja! product from Netto). She actually made money out of us.
No one seems to give to charity... it is always the govt...
No one seems to treat anyone to a beer or a coffee.
When I moved in with a german older man he manipulated the fairy washing up liquid nozzle to not release too much liquid, no joke.
When I first moved stayed with a friend and she made me feel guilty for every minute I spent in the shower, and there was no curtain. I felt guilty every time I ran the hot tap. In fact she didn't allow me. In fairness to her the electricity bills are so high... no wonder!
Health insurance….wow.
Clothes and electronics (compared to many other western countries)
Tax.
These admin fees we seem to get lumped with for bureaucratic tasks
Nothing is free in this country, they don’t know what a freebie is.
Cost of Water. Even a glass of tap water is not considered a human right, even when somebody is paying for products/food/services. One must pay for it 80% of the time, or when given expect a sarcastic comment or attitude. Even when you order an expensive cocktail and want some water to quench your thirst… expect attitude for wanting a glass of tap water.
No one wants to share food. Me me me protestant mentality.
Lack of street lights. They call it energy saving… I call it being tight as a crabs A33
Lack of attractive fences in building gardens… all you see are those nasty cheapo green grid ones…yuk. No stone or wood or iron, nothing that costs something.
No beautiful flower beds, just weeds. No borders. No attractive paths.
Oh yeah, when you get that ‘free’ shot at the greek restaurant, it is already factored into the bill total
Order a soup in a café, pay a lot for it, then they charge you extra for bread. It.is.a.soup(!)
Spill a drink, pay for whole price again.
Tight with information: this is major. They don’t want to share info. They want to keep everything for themselves even if it won’t damage their interests. But why not help others?!
Please free to GENEROUSLY add more reasons why Germans are tight, that you can think of my fellow Berlinhaters!
Thanks for the smug comment...I haven't bought yet, but I am aware about these conditions. I like your comment about the dutch though hehe.
PS at my work they only replaced the carpet 1 sq m around where your chair moves instead of the whole carpet. Maybe they take tips from the dutch????
You forgot the most important of all. Germans never shower. They even smell on a Monday, so not on Sundays, either. Because they have to save water. Also, bathtubs take too long to become empty again. Maybe they’re designed that way to make germans too guilty for wasting water during their monthly shower?
The drains here are made so that a small compartment has to fill up and then drain front a small hole at the top. This is done to discourage "excessive" water use. I opened mine once and removed the bottom (the bottom could be unscrewed) and it flooded the guy below me's bathroom. I am not even joking.
When will the Civil War Begin in Berlin ?
Enjoy the decline :)
Germans just hate Americans because they made them surrender. And Russians. Wait, guess that doesn’t count any of the other races and nationalities they hate. Who do they even like anyway ? Do they like Nordics?
Yeah, they like Scandinavia and Benelux and that's it. But who cares really? The EU is practically over anyway since Germany is refusing to let the globalists rule of Eurobonds. The moment that happens Germany's intricate system of devaluing a German currency is going to fail making exports from Germany prohibitively expensive like the exports of any other developed country. Then it's only a matter of time before Germany is removed from the G8 and this country is just another Greece.