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This is a message for any 'defensive German/Berliner/Nazi' commenting here along the lines of "If you don't like it here, LEAVE" or "We don't want you here" and so on:
What are you doing on berlinhater?? If London had a similar site with 3400+ bashings (which it doesn't...hmm...) would there be a sad brit lurking in there to defend it? Same goes for Paris...NY...and so on. These cities aren't perfect, far from it, but no one is full of this fantasy nonsense, "Berlin, du bist so Wunderbar"/ "Berlin, ich liebe dich'"etc. We know London has a pooping side. We have more empathy that it is tough to live somewhere as a foreigner, especially when the locals think you don't deserve to be in their 'utopia' ...cough.
Have you not considered people meet a German or Berliner abroad and have relationships and children and end up moving to Berlin? Have you not considered that your country funds arms and war equipment in the middle east and these refugees are coming here to escape your policies and actions? Have you not considered your countries position in colonisation/globalisation? This is me, as an englishman saying this... all Europeans have this blood on our hands...our histories... what possible right do you have to tell anyone to 'leave'???!!!
What the F are you doing revelling in 'scowling' at people?!
People in London say good and bad things about their city. Here in Berlin, utter a bad thing and it is almost breaking a taboo. Where does this defensiveness come from?
Many fellow Londoners complained to me (English and from abroad), and it didn't cross my mind to tell them leave... i.e. go home. Until you have lived as a real adult, and made commitments you will never understand how much courage, effort, money, time, and other complicated factors go into upping sticks and moving to another land...then having to do it even back to your own isn't just something where you snap your fingers and... we are locked down in contracts that auto roll over per 24 months for one thing!!!! Seems your companies are keen to take our (foreigners) money and employ us in the menial work you don't want or to fill the gaps in the skilled market, maybe you should take your argument up with them???
I just think you don't think.
You probably will never understand, perhaps you were born here and you will likely stay in Berlin your whole life and keep scowling at foreigners. I know you want the earth to stand still in the year 1999 and not progress so you can keep your never never land fantasy, and watch VHS videos and smoke inside buildings, and continue doing whatever you did in your teens... which is your choice... but the earth doesn't stop for anyone or country and you will be left behind. Your city is on borrowed time dipping into the pockets of the rest of Germany, whilst Germany dips into the pockets of the poorer EU countries thriving off their debt.
Germany pays ex-Stasi and other long-term unemployables to crawl the internet and make these kinds of posts. That's why they somehow show up in every single thread about hatred for Berlin/Germany. Mention the word "Zersetzung" anywhere online and within an hour or two you'll have replies by someone from Germany's massive network of Brown Astroturf. I don't care if this sounds like a stupid conspiracy theory because it's true.
Weak Characters - Jealousy - Inferiority Complex
It is evident that you cannot return to your homeland and you are broken in Germany.
Brexit hammered the last nail into the coffin of the UK - now it is just an ill and limping mongrelized non-state.
As for the other EU trash here who could not excel in their native countries and possess neither skills nor literacy even in their mother tongue let alone any other language, they have been coming here to do the low level work ( or rather not do it, because they take Harz 4 ), then hate US for it !
Of course this breeds contempt and results in jealousy of us, your host people.
Now with an inferiority complex swirling in the back of your minds and voices in your heads, you walk the streets of Berlin and because you realize you are here for no good reason you enlist the usual cliches to vilify us Germans - you only show how terribly weak your characters are and what simple minds you possess. You all have bad Karma and are paying for it !
You will not able to advance here and you did not investigate the standards and situation of this Nation State BEFORE settling here.
You will be removed eventually, it is only a matter of time. But if I were you I would leave of my own accord before you are forced out with scars.
Lol Berlin is a joke. Why would we be jealous of some third world country, where everyone is on welfare or drugs thinking they are progressive, drug dealers everywhere and pooping negative attitude- and the worst cuisine of all of Europe? And the worst fashion sense ? You’re white trash.
And there is no “advancing”’in Berlin. You sound like a know it all german. You don’t know it all and your city sucks. We are trapped here thanks for your pooping wages. And the whole world will know how cunts you are soon enough, you learned nothing from the Holocaust. You people just love hating on others. That’s why we hate and generalize you, for making our lives miserable for no reason!
If you ever want to leave your “paradise” Berlin (LOL, you wouldn’t because it’s the only place that would take you) , you’ll find it shocking racism and xenophobia isn’t allowed at the workplace and can even land you in court or jail. And you would have to treat colleagues and especially customers with respect, otherwise you’d be fired.
Lazy trash
I left Berlin in the middle of 2018, stayed there for 2 years with the whole package (shitty underpaid job, crazy cheater german boyfriend, crazy nazi degenerate roomate, party drug friends), + bonus of depression, anxiety, health issues (some of that i still have now), now i live in Seville, in the south of Spain, i have a peaceful life, a job that i like but not really good paid but sun, and nice people. I still have trauma from Berlin, and come here from time to time to remind me what i've been through and that i was not the only one, actually this site made me stay mentally sane. So my question is, for the ones who left Berlin, where are you now and how is it going? Do you still have symptoms of your life in Hell? Funny thing is i somehow wanted to go back to learn german, as i'm working in the art world, i kinda lost it speaking spanish, but i'm so traumatized by germans, that by just hearing the language it just block me from speaking it or learning it again. I'm that traumatized. And everytime a see a german person on art documentaries, tv etc i can't stop linking it to Berlin and to my past there. I guess it's gonna take few more years to erase the trauma... how has it been for you since you left?
4 months now for me and I'm totally over big cities, I've moved to a big town in Australia and loving it, very friendly people, clean air, no traffic jams, no pretence, just easy going lifestyle. I'm totally over Berlin until I hear one of them talking, then, I must admit, I do get a shudder down my spine, but it goes away quick enough now. I miss nothing about that shiiithole. By the way, the women are just as crazy as the guys. Weirdest culture I've ever experienced and I've traveled around the world 7 times.
I wish you a wonderful future.
3 years for me. Moved back to the UK. I now live in a city under 1 million people, salary has doubled, tax is lower, have a seaside apartment (own, not rent), still go out, work out more and have better friends.
The biggest reliefs are not having to hear about pointless side projects from deluded expats or seeing the look of complete despair on every locals face.
Maybe why German are such assholes is because they don’t take acid or psychedelics. They just take ketamine (which makes you feel the world is under your control like a video game) or speed or ghb. No.
I don't think that's it. I doubt an average person you seen on the street in any country uses psychedelics and yet outside of Germany they're all generally decent people. All the weird club kids probably are a special case as the guy above said, but I think Germans are just assholes by societal torture.
"its different than your home country" AKA: a justification for being racist
"we are not racist". YES, you are racist. Otherwise, why would someone say you are racist. repeatedly. imbeciles.
We should just start telling germans that they should go home and that we don’t want them here. That they will never Be happy here and if they don’t like it, they can leave.
SHOUTED AGAIN ON THESE GERMAN RETARDS TO GET THE JOB DONE.........BASTARDS DONT UNDERSTND CIVILTY LETS SEE IF THE JOB GETS DONE OR NOT..........
with berliners i used to think they had gone through some really serious trauma which explained their lack of compassion and distanced nature. But i think its just called living in berlin. It slowly suffocates you and makes you afraid of intimacy.
It's actually trauma. Children are just fine by default. I'm just saying. It's very collective, lots of fears. Blame is a big thing when often it's noone's fault. Surely many people turn into some real suckers and who said anger was ever bad for someone. But yeah they are warped. It's of no use as for a solution what I wrote. Often we feel fallcies. Just free to say whatever, why I wrote it.
i really want to avoid negativity or being myself negative, but this place is the only place where i can freely speak about all the bs i have to go in this horrible city.
today i was yelled by some cret*n working for my apartment complex. apparently, you can’t even take your dog for a simple walk here. you might actually get humiliated for doing nothing. and there’s absolutely no thing you can do about it, not unless your are german and have some sort of support. but this is another thing i noticed. no matter how hard of an unfairness you’ve experienced, it doesn’t compare to the minor one of a german. as long as you have a foreign name/look you are automatically treated as less than a citizen, even less than a woman. and all these young pieces of sht preaching communi*m... as an eastern european myself i’d just love to punch them myself. sometimes i feel so bad about the beautiful nature of berlin, for it’s the only good thing here. the people, especially the native ones, are worse than the scum displayed on every street corner(‘by all those uncivilized foreigners’ they surely believe...)
that might be true, but that is no excuse for their own weirdness and rudeness. and by any eastern european(and not only) standards, they’re deadly arrogant and have to impose their useless opinions on everyone that they can reach. for example, this out of place comment
North Americans also believe this.
So do Spanish. So do Chinese. So do Eastern Europeans. So do Brazilians.
The problem is with Berliners, not with you, even though they love to tell you that YOU are the problem and that you are lucky to live in their beautiful city (or go home). And there’s nothing you can do.
I’m sure if we ever stood up to them, you know it’s illegal to insult people right, you’d get thrown in jail. I’m trying to understand why they go about life living this way. It is so terrible, the way they live. So negative and so pompous and for what, you know all the cultures of the world have something to offer, and even when germans “appreciate” this, they appropriate, fetishize... they don’t know how to behave with any decency... They have no desire to learn and they even get more angry when you try to open a discussion... and this is why we hate them. Because they make our lives hell, and enjoy it. And for what? What is the point of it ? You know I was at the mieterverein office awhile ago, the woman said I didn’t have an appointment. And I turned the monitor towards me, and boom there it was. So visible on the screen. And she didn’t even apologize. Just stared blankly. So what, what was the point of that. To make me leave and pay more rent, she could get a little kick out of making my life hard? Do they all conspire to try to make our lives hard? freaking Nazis.
One time I was in Dublin on the bus going into the city. These German men were sitting next to me, talking to an Irish guy on the phone, being Super friendly, I guess a colleague, saying they had arrived. Then as soon as they hung up, they talked between themselves, in a sarcastic, awful tone, probably making fun of the Irish way of being. It’s not that they don’t understand how to be friendly. It’s that they think they are the best, they can dictate the rules and friendly people are somehow oblivious and stupid. You know what? People have pain. They don’t have to go about life being an asshole. If someone is kind or friendly it doesn’t mean they are stupid. They are just trying to live life well. Something these jerk Germans understand. It’s best that we all leave Germany as they want us to, leave them to their own devices, so they can keep inbreeding. And close their borders forever and bomb them again. They terrify me. It’s a good thing they are poor, and just want to take drugs and have sex, so that they don’t have the desire to take over the world again.
Of course it’s a different culture. I’ve moved to many countries and I always tried to adjust to their cultures. But this one is sick. No wonder Germans with immigrant parents identify themselves as foreigners, not Germans. That’s the only country where this happens
GERMans always enjoy trying to provoke. Went on a sort of date with a German in a park. First part of our conversation I told him I was from England and this entailed in him saying he lived there and putting down the 'drinking culture' and questioning 'this way of living'. Whilst I may or may not agree with his critique, why start already bashing the home country of your date? It is just plain bad manners. Of course they would see it as being direct and honest and all that bull.
Not saying my country isn't up for being criticised. Can't you at least wait til the third date beforehand? ;-) Do they assume I will be attracted to them by their negative comments about where I am from...?!
They do not understand the art of diplomacy. Their directness makes their critique vulgar and crude.
All people want to show off or criticise a little, but these beasts are so transparent, there is no tact, or intelligence . Just punched into your face, boom, take that, and if you are offended it is your problem.
Communication is a two way interaction, and a reciprocal negotiation of both sides reading the other. Yet we can see when walking on the street that non-Germans or people who haven't grown up here send communication signals to each other to avoid bumping into one another. Moreover, we send these signals to thank someone for moving aside, or to say sorry when we accidentally knock someone or enter their personal space. Not the Germans. It is just me, myself and I... all the time... yet frustrated when others do not comply with their ego ego ego and wondering why people dare to be in their way. It is like every single person is an 'only child' in this city, not able to compute that they aren't the only sh1t in the world.
Recall the number of times those germans stamp their foot when you are in their way in a shopping isle, when trying to get a yoghut out of the fridge... because you just happened to be there when they wanted something too. Look, biatch, you are living in a city... we share the space...
They are always so grumpy all the time because they seem surprised that other people seem to occupy the same sphere. I am not surpised they are grumpy because everyone acts like an A-hole, and thus the circle of frustration continues. This goes for all outdoor realms... roads...cars...public transport... restaurants... spaetis, public parks and municipal buildings... and airports (!!!)
Wow. You nailed it. You described germans so accurately. Ego ego ego above anything else (what do the others want? Doesn’t matter) and they will criticize your country or city the first time they meet you and find out where you’re from. No manners at all, these people
I've also noticed the same thing. When Germans realize you're a foreigner they'll almost always either 1. ignore you, or 2. toss out the first stereotype they can think of. I am American and I have had conversations with Germans who I had just met say things like "Oh you're from America? I would never let my kids move there because they'd probably get shot" or "I can't really stand Americans, but the ones who have a passport are usually ok". Why even start like that? When I meet Germans I never lead with "Wow, what's with all the weird drunks urinating in public here?" or "Why is your country so scared of free speech that they actually jail people for it?". In fact, even when Germans invariably ask me if I like it here since I've been here a while and it's kind of uncommon for an American to move here, even then I keep things civil. It's not because I'm afraid of confrontation or arguments or because I'm unsure of my stance, it's because I understand one thing that Germans will, on aggregate, never EVER understand: saving face. I'm not going to unnecessarily make someone else feel bad for zero net gain. Germans don't understand that. They don't understand that you can be annoyed because someone is walking to slowly in the middle of an aisle but still politely ask to get by. It just doesn't factor into their minds. They're huge proponents of early institutional education of children for socialization but at the same time all seem to have garnered zero social skills in 20 years of schooling.
Also another thing I've noticed is that the only way you can actually enjoy Berlin is if you're completely unaware of everything around you. If you don't notice that you're being scorned by random Germans for doing pretty much anything in public, if you don't notice the grumpy stomps and sighs and grunts when you're paying at a grocery, if you don't notice that there's a small homeless camp set up 5m away from where you're playing volleyball for 20€/hour, if you don't notice the weird alcoholics peeing against the windowpanes of Kaufhof on Alexanderplatz when you're trying to enjoy the Christmas market... if you can ignore all of that then you can enjoy Berlin.
We as Berliners and Germans just don't want you here, it's that simple. SO why are you here and complaining about it ? Get yourselves out of here and get on with your lives. You will never be happy here and we will always scowl at you when we see you. So go !
Yeah that’s funny considering international companies lure foreigners to Germany to work since your pooping population is lazy and unqualified, so that more qualified foreigners can work for peanuts, get trapped and have no money to leave. And don’t forget how your government markets the place to foreigners for the tourism industry. Get over yourselves, you try to call yourselves an international city when it’s a village and backwater. You are the most xenophobic people on the planet and I hope your city, with all the tourist dollars it relies on, really feels the effects from corona. You say you want us to leave but you probably don’t even have a job that relies on us. I hope the international community wakes up to you all still being Nazis.
You should have done 'due diligence' before you moved to Berlin or anywhere else for that matter. If you are stuck here and hating it -it is because you hate yourself for not doing this investigation in the first place.You are naive and foolish to think you are welcome everywhere you go. You are not. You must adapt and conform to where you live. Berlin is not for you LEAVE...We don't want you here and you don't want to be here -so GO!
LOL whom is Berlin for exactly? Last I checked, the city did nothing over the last 100 years except bounce back and forth between two radically opposing ideologies that both resulted in massive surveillance systems and extra-judicial extermination of entire swaths of society. If it weren't for foreigners I suspect Germany would have entirely cannibalized itself by now, many times over. And if it weren't for financial injections from the West AND the East then Berlin would have sunk back into the swamp from which it materialized long ago. It's actually amazing to me that any German can have any self-respect or sense of national identity at all given it's history that is both oppressively fierce and miserably impotent.
OP: Why is the 'German/Berliner/Nazi' commenting on my feed? What are you doing on berlinhater?? If London had a similar site with 3400+ bashings (which it doesn't...hmm...) would there be a sad brit lurking in there to defend it? Same goes for Paris...NY...and so on. These cities aren't perfect, far from it, but no one is full of this fantasy nonsense, "Berlin, du bist so Wunderbar"/ "Berlin, ich liebe dich'"etc. We know London has a pooping side. We have more empathy that it is tough to live somewhere as a foreigner, especially when the locals think you don't deserve to be in their 'utopia' ...cough.
Have you not considered people meet a German or Berliner abroad and have relationships and children and end up moving to Berlin? Have you not considered that your country funds arms and war equipment in the middle east and these refugees are coming here to escape your policies and actions? Have you not considered your countries position in colonisation/globalisation? This is me, as an englishman saying this... all Europeans have this blood on our hands...our histories... what possible right do you have to tell anyone to 'leave'???!!!
What the F are you doing revelling in 'scowling' at people?!
People in London say good and bad things about their city. Here in Berlin, utter a bad thing and it is almost breaking a taboo. Where does this defensiveness come from?
Many fellow Londoners complained to me (English and from abroad), and it didn't cross my mind to tell them leave... i.e. go home. Until you have lived as a real adult, and made commitments you will never understand how much courage, effort, money, time, and other complicated factors go into upping sticks and moving to another land...then having to do it even back to your own isn't just something where you snap your fingers and... we are locked down in contracts that auto roll over per 24 months for one thing!!!! Seems your companies are keen to take our (foreigners) money and employ us in the menial work you don't want or to fill the gaps in the skilled market, maybe you should take your argument up with them???
I just think you don't think.
You probably will never understand, perhaps you were born here and you will likely stay in Berlin your whole life and keep scowling at foreigners. I know you want the earth to stand still in the year 1999 and not progress so you can keep your never never land fantasy, and watch VHS videos and smoke inside buildings, and continue doing whatever you did in your teens... which is your choice... but the earth doesn't stop for anyone or country and you will be left behind. Your city is on borrowed time dipping into the pockets of the rest of Germany, whilst Germany dips into the pockets of the poorer EU countries thriving off their debt.
Let’s add to all this that Germans stop talking to you altogether for no apparent reason. A German was very friendly to me and we had a lot of conversations, until one day he removed any bits of intimacy and stopped talking to me. I have no idea why. I never said anything offensive. They just do that all the time. Some German “friends” of my parents did the same to them and they have no idea why. Germans are sick people, period.
You say “I don’t like Berlin” and they’re like “we don’t want you here! Leave!” As if they all have some kind of earpiece telling them what to say... I have a few German friends, but even they are extremely traumatized by the place. And they are also new to Berlin under 2 years from Munich and Hamburg. Everyone else just freaked out and gaslit me. And these berliners like to say people from other parts of Germany are worse....
But also how broken up is it that they really don’t have an identity at all except “Berliner”. And they all have the same opinions and “leave” mentality. Like why not make your own persona and not try to police random people around you and chill the fornicate out, man.
I thought about going to Spain after this but now I’m in North America I may try Los Angeles after corona. I need Chill people, even airheads would be welcome
I only know one Berliner girl who dared say Berlin was dirty. She has traveled a lot and done volunteering in other countries, that’s why. Instead of giving them welfare money, the state should fund these people to travel and open their extremely closed minds. Also, force them to work.
Had a German girlfriend once who told me a weird story. Her aunt was either pregnant or had just gave birth and one of my gf's cousins was a teenager at the time. Somehow he apparently steered a conversation to breast milk and said he'd like to try it and she let him drink it straight from her tit. Met them both later at some family gathering and specifically remember her saying to her own son that the cousin who sucked on her tits- had a much "nicer physique" and that her son should try to be more like him. EX (haha) gf maintained the entire time that there was nothing at all sexual or weird about the breastfeeding. I swear to God NOTHING about this country's culture surprises me anymore.
Q: How many Germans does it take to screw In a lightbulb
A: one, because they know exactly what they are doing, adding more Germans to the mix would just confirm their hypothesis
Is there a legal way to get a deposit back from the landlord if I’ve left the country ?
How are you supposed to get a normal job in the country? Okay, pretty much every job requires a bachelor (better a master of course). But even then you look at job postings and even for ENTRY LEVEL/JUNIOR positions they always say 2-3 years experience. And for every internship they always say ONLY STUDENTS because they'd have to pay at least minimum wage unless it's a mandatory student internship. How the hell did anyone here ever get their first job?
They all get free education. It’s beneficial for discounts until they’re 40 to avoid any real working. Although I do have a degree, I really find degrees as useful as toilet paper seeing so many with one of those, but not able to pin A to B. Anyway, this is my rant to a different topic.
I guess at least having those on my resume, I got me to the interview stage a few times. Who knows.
To answer your question: if you are good in your field, just be confident. Don’t get put down while trying. Once you get to the interview table, sell yourself fairly and openly. Be modest as the common sense dictates, but not too modest. Here it seem a weakness rather than a quality.
On your CV elevate your working experience rather than your education and focus on your strength points.
Know what you want, what you’d like to do, what you’re good at and go for it.
Do not seem to willing to do everything. German employers find that desperate.
Use bigger words to describe poop tasks you had. I literally saw people selling themselves and their lack of experience by putting a bow on the poop. You can make everything sounds fancier than it is with a little effort.
And now, on the “black market” type of suggestions. No one asks for proof of your degree here. I might be wrong, but in three years never happened to anyone I know.
Just add a fancy BA and MA from a University in a foreign country, and you’re set. I add my master degree in my CV all the time, even though I dropped out of it, and never graduated it. I would admit not having the degree, but no one asked so far.
I also know someone who said that went to Uni, but in fact.. didn’t. Guess what happened?
Yup, no one checked. ;)
Good luck and fingers crossed!
Also, make up some experience in some foreign country, ask a friend to be available for a reference etc. if needed. You know, the usual... Lie a bit. :) But make sure it’s plausible.
They want 2 years of experience? Well, let me tell you about that one startup in Kuala Lumpur I was doing my management cycle at & the internship for that super secret project for a company I cannot disclose much as I signed a strict confidentiality clause.
Get creative.
Also, if you have a name that is hard on pronunciation, adjust it.
If it’s Tzymotzhy go for Tim etc.
Last name is Garcia Lopez De la Venga, go for just one, or.. Sklinkatinkachenko, go for the beginning part: Sklin.
From Tzymotzhy Sklinkatinkachenko = Tim Sklin or ... Tim Venga
( I apologise in advance for offending anyone with my fictive names here)
When you get the contract it will be as in your ID anyway.
I can tell you how it is. The HR departments in Germany are often full of sh*t. They want to hire a guy with a PhD, 10 years of experience, ideally you're 25 and are available 24/7 while working for 2000€ month max. Their expectations are completely out of touch. Unless you have any sort of connections, you can spend years of unsuccesful job hunt, like I did. Had to do further education as a web dev, because my original university degree was worth f*ck all.
This proves exactly their racism sometimes. They act so multi kulti for the sake of politically correctness, but they will always go for a German that has the intellect of a cabbage instead of a fairly bright or eager to learn foreigner.
One of the best qualities you must focus to develop is adaptability and willingness to learn.
Germans lack that by nature, and are socially autistic (and evil spirited, I might add).
No matter how much experience you have a new job is a learning curve. Always.
You can even learn from scratch on the job if you’re not a moron. That is why you see so many dysfunctional companies with dysfunctional people & a toxic competitive vibe.
If a German is feeling threatened by you because you are smarter, better, faster, you will prove nothing to anyone, except how stupid you must be to think they will see you less than subhuman if you’re not German.
Bonus point if you are from a poorer, conflict country or such. They’ll just assume you have not seen civilized world until you reached Germany.
Even the most multi kulti, vegan, leftie, refugee welcome type of Germans have this thing.
Übermenschen Syndrome still lingers on this society.
"You can even learn from scratch on the job if you’re not a moron."
Says a lot about a culture that thinks its own citizens are so mentally deficient that they need 13 YEARS of mandatory school followed by AT LEAST 3 MORE YEARS of higher education PLUS a PRACTICE JOB (i.e. internship/trainee (because for some reason trainees in Germany are just interns) to do any job at all. Germany just might be full of the stupidest people on earth.
To the person who said make up degrees. Obviously you are from a third world country. At some point, someone may ask for the degree and probably will. It's pretty easy to figure out that someone is lying about having a masters degree. You can figure this out with a Bachelors as well.
I am the one with the suggestion. Well, I did not “lie” about having it. I did my master. I just never did the final project to get the degree, but I do list it as it’s relevant knowledge I got there for my current job. I do not care, no one cares and I earn 5K+ per month. No one will ask at this point, and I am not even feeling guilty. They can call the University and confirm my registration, but who exactly does that?
I used to live in Berlin and escaped. My mistake is that I moved to VIENNA. Now why am I posting here? Because I have noticed that basically ALL GERMAN SPEAKING COUNTRIES ARE THE SAME: full of racists, degenerates, assholes and idiots and generally angry people without decent manners. Luckily I will be leaving Vienna at the end of the month but its exactly like Berlin: fake claims of "beautiful city" when it is in fact a dirty and grotty idiot fill of cunts. I advise anyone seeking to leave berlin: DO NOT MOVE TO ANOTHER GERMAN SPEAKING COUNTRY. Any country that is German speaking - I have learned - is as a rule of thumb just full of stupid assholes. Vienna has pulled the same trick as Berlin - pretending to be a nice city to lure in Tourist money - now that that is gone all these cities are going to get their comeuppance. Deservedly so!