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Is it possible to find people that do not obsessively talk about techno parties, fake art (words like performance, installations etc make me mad) and other useless cr.ap? I could understand teenagers, but for fuck's sake i see people OVER 30 and 40 talking about the cool dj that is playing at BERGHAIN and they cannot miss.. Really? there is something pathetic and embarassing about this, i dont know why
I don't remember the last time I actually had real, genuine fun in this country. It feels like the only way people have fun here is by getting drunk, talking about politics (??? if masochism counts I guess?) or just making fun of each other and being nasty in general. They're like bitterness personified. And if you're not, don't you even dare showing the slightest hint of happiness. They'll go mad crushing you until you're just like them.
So true. Have you ever heard the word "schadenfreude"? This work exists only in german. Guess what it means? Basically, twisted/perverse/harm joy that derives from seeing others in pain. This is what is funny to them: people's suffering.
Those pricks have no sense of humor, they have no joy in them. They are in competition for anything and everything. They exist, they don't live. They don't have the most basic human qualities there are.
Those people make me sick to the stomach. I was such a happy person before moving to this hell hole, now I'm just sad and depressed.
Preaching to the choir on that one. I have never come across people who enjoy others' suffering so extremely anywhere else, save for Italy. Then again, I didn't get around too much there, but from what I experienced they had the same "European Assholes" syndrome. Like. Can't we just enjoy ourselves without comparing everyone to everything? One really shouldn't be AFRAID of showing positive emotion, or emotion in general. Christ.
We all know that house and it's antecedents stemmed from minority groups — African Americans, Puerto Ricans, homosexuals — and were, eventually, co-opted by white heterosexuals. It is sad to see that in Berlin and in many other cities in Germany house has become a snob (in the sense that only certain partygoers are welcome), segregated and xenophobic experience. The music scene thrived when Berlin when the city opened its doors back in the 90s to renegades from all over the world but today it's just sad to see that only welcomes "Berliners". I can tell you that because I've been long enough in the music biz to know what happened here and honestly I don't like what happened to the city. RIP Berlin. 1900-1999
oh and by the way I shared this on a forum about the city music scene and all I got was a link to this site plus some hate replies. Please share your music scene experiences in places like Reddit because others have similar concerns but they don't voice their concerns loud enough for fear of Berlin trolls.
Very true Berlin is done and poor bored people give up everything from far off places like australia and america to go to berlin thinking its a cultural paradise with cheap accomodation and open minded people ?. Occasionally you go to a smaller electronic music cub and its cool like Henrietta house, everyones welcomed in, the atmosphere, multiple rooms and music is all good. Forget BERGHAIN ITS ALL FUCKYNG HYPE NOW. Its really nothing special at all. I Would want the place to be full of all sorts of people but it isnt ?. Where are the Drag queens, the cool Gays, The Cool Black people and famous artists, nowhere to be seen the times I Have actually Dj´d there.
What is worse than a German?... a Berliner during the weekends
i don't understand how people think the city is safe. I've been attacked and mugged multiple times growing up here and put into terrifying situations. Yet everyone i know talks about how safe Berlin is compared to other cities, maybe i just had bad luck.
You know, I keep coming back to this site, even after having left Berlin almost one year ago. I felt so much lighter after getting rid of everything back there. I moved to another city for college, still in Germany, but a really really small town, where people are nicer in comparison. This may be a little off topic, since it isn't really about Berlin, so apologies beforehand. I simply don't know where else to share this, and I am really fond of this website. And before I say anything else, I want to add that I find myself more sensitive and initially light-hearted than the average of all the people I've met in Germany. Here's the deal: It *still* sucks here. What sucks isn't the place, it's absolutely pretty where I live now, but a realization I made a while ago: the whole "German mentality" is so backwards, I find it hard to grasp it. I've grown up in a mostly warm-hearted environment, and the amount of cynicism and snappiness of these people won't cease to shock me. That's right. I grew up in Berlin, of all places - you'd think I grew into the whole "fuck it" mentality, but I have never been able to wrap my head around how a people could be so miserable to the core. Granted, there are quite a bit of "Großstädter" in this city too, but even when you think you are somewhat well-acquainted with people, out-of-freaking-nowhere they toss at you something like "Why are you talking about this?" or "I do not care." or they flat-out tell you to stop talking. How tactless, emotionally unintelligent and unempathetic do you have to be? They call it "being honest," and I can follow that sentiment, but the virtue of all honesty in the world doesn't mean anything when you forget to be polite about it. Here's another shocker: These are *psychology* students that I've heard these phrases from. ... I've been sitting at home basically the entirety of my vacation, trying to understand the heavy mental malfunctioning that is present in this society. Not surprisingly, it's been impossible for me to make any "friends" at all (at which point I don't even think I want to be friends with these kinds of people that are just purely emotionally exhausting). Really, I feel like I've been withering away from lack of enjoyable social interaction for years by now. You just cannot be a cheerful, light-hearted person here without fearing to be eaten alive. This country, so far, has been nothing more than a giant fish tank full of piranhas and sharks, trimmed for efficiency. Where is the joy? Where are the people I can have fun with, without having to fear they'll turn my emotions into burdens? Everyone is just too cool for everything here. The hostility constantly lingering in the air is disturbing. I really have to say, I feel so delighted when I get the chance to travel, I feel like in just about any other country, you can dare to be yourself, with all its flaws and goofiness, all your childish hobbies and bizarre interests, people are a lot more accepting. That's just adding my two (or twenty) cents here. Thank you a lot if you read through all this, and I wish all of you the best - preferably out of this place. As for the admins: I cannot thank you enough for this website. It really is a blessing.
You are absolutely right, I feel the same exact way.
I keep trying to understand why they are like this, I'm pretty sure I will never be able to figure this out. They get so defensive when you try to have a conversation about the "german mentality" with them.
This place is doomed. I don't believe those people will ever change, they are only getting worse.
I get your point, before Berlin I used to live in Munich and most things said in this website can be related to Munich as well you only have to change "broke artists" to "pegida lunatics". Nothing really changes across Germany, I still have to find that beautiful German city full of culture, art and sophisticated people. I recently travelled to Kuala Lumpur and Singapore. And both places feel like 40 years into the future when you compare it to German cities. There are great places in Europe, true, but I truly believe that none of them is in Germany.
Thanks a lot you guys. I can't even explain how it helps simply knowing people made similar experiences. I am literally only staying here to finish my degree and I will definitely get the hell out of here asap. If I'm grateful for one thing it's that, out of necessity, my English has become decent enough that it offers me international options, because I sure as hell won't intend to spend my next 30 years among these miserable people. Literally. That's currently my goal in life: To move out of Germany and avoid anything German like the plague.
Whoever keeps spreading the hype about Berlin should be jailed for fraud....
This is worth watching news.vice.com/video/flight-to-the-holy-land-europes-jewish-exodus-part-1
Artist city - my butt - all the "artists" are unemployed or drunkards...the only notable artists to come out of Berlin (peaches and bowie) are not even from Berlin and both were a LONG time ago! Berliners think they are all so smart and intelligent when they are the dumbest people around...they hate auslaender (foreigners) despite the fact their city is dependent on tourism to stay afloat! Can yo imagine what Berlin would be without the tourism industry? Comments below appreciated
What Berlin would be without the tourists: a shi.t hole full of racist inbreds who have been depressed since the day they were born, hating on every single foreigner they can find (if any), luring themselves thinking they got it all figured out (the german way is uncontestably the best you know) and probably plotting to start WW3 to release their inherent bitterness and frustration on the rest of the world.
This city would be even poorer than it is now, with no light nor joy whatsoever.
Ah fu.ck I had forgotten that this city already is joyless anyways...
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The lady doing the Nazi salute at a Trump rally, you will never guess where she was from. You guessed it right Ber-fucking-lin
www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/12/trump-supporter-who-made-nazi-salute-explains-why-she-made-the-gesture
I can laugh about it now,but my stopover at Dubai airport was more culturally enriching,friendly and sophisticated than all my years spent in Berlin put together...and thats a pretty sad indication of how backwards Berlin is.
Its not enough to just complain about Berlin -- its best to LEAVE - it had a moment in the 90s when it was cool and there were mostly opportunities (based around partying) - now its just an alcohol soaked hellhole, with fake artists, aggressive miserable STUPID people and no prospects - some of my worstdays were in that city....get out while you can - I know I will NEVER return.
I feel the same way! Im so happy that I went with my gut and left. The city isnt worth the struggle. Ive never met so many people with fake jobs, although I did admire the ones that were TRUE Entrepreneurs. But they paid decades to make their businesses happen.
Germany is no longer racist they said. Right wing parties and xenophobia are things of the past they said. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/2015-07-04_AfD_Bundesparteitag_Essen_by_Olaf_Kosinsky-232.jpg
Berlin taught me how to stay calm and patient.. with all these unrespectful subhumans i would have probably ended up in jail long time ago. The thought of beating the poop out of them is firm, so for all those who are forced to stay here for some moths more (like me) keep your cool and stay strong, this nightmare will end soon.
CON ARTIST: a person who cheats or tricks others by persuading them to believe something that is not true. Berlin is a con artist city - any hype you hear about it (cool, progressive, artistic mecca, loads of successful people, multicultural, opportunities, open) are NOT TRUE. its one big CON.