There are plenty of reasons to despise this filth ridden city. What bothers you most?

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If anyone wants a good laugh, look at this ridiculous article about Marzahn, I don't know what they are smoking there but it's sure powerful www.bz-berlin.de/berlin/marzahn-hellersdorf/marzahn-hills-kommt-doch-nicht

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The East Side of Hell

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Haha, I like the idea!

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Who the fornicate wants to live in Marzahn?

Source: Currently living somewhere else in Berlin; Lived on the border of Lichtenburg and Marzahn for a while. It sucked.

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At least, there are no rapefugee and Arab scum in Marzahn

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LOL, there are tons of refugees in Marzahn. Probably more than anywhere else in Berlin.

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Another Stefan above with errant commas.

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HellyWood perhaps

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Translated in Google:

40 police officers were needed to restrain a man who was hospitalized in "St. Hedwig "(Berlin center) rampaged. Now he is in court.

Previously, Baris K. (30) attacked a gardener in Brunnenstrasse (Wedding) on June 21, 2017, including a hydrant wrench weighing several kilos.

The arrest resisted the Turk massively, damaged a police vehicle. Later, he devastated the station in the Catholic Hospital (5000 Euro property damage) and barricaded himself.

Up to 40 police officers were on duty. Eventually, they managed to overpower the stark-naked man armed with cutlery and shards.

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He's probably not even going to go to prison. Catch and let go policy like always.

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Crime in a city of nearly 4 million people, OH NOOOOO

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Hahaha, get raped Stefan you fat cuck. 40 police officers to arrest one guy? Yeah, happens every day all over the world.

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Lol the world is huge and full of people and you're so sheltered you can't even fathom that they wouldn't just straight out execute the guy because that's what your type needs to jerk off.

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Thanks for the context, Stefan. Glad to see you're carrying on the great Berlin tradition of pretending to not be surprised at anything. It's the same trait that makes this city so disgustingly unbearable and, deep down inside, every one of you autists know it.

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The sad thing is that they really don't know it, these poor souls have never had someone show them a kindness, generosity or hospitality, so they just think that is the way life is, they don't question it, because it's all they've ever known. Very sad people the Berliners. .

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If you move to Berlin - you can forget your dating life. OK, if you're female - you can simply install Tinder on your phone and receive tons of messages from desperate Turks, Arabs and Germans. But if you're male and you look average (i.e. not like Instagram male model or any other type of a "bad boy") - you are screwed, bro. Involuntary celibacy will be your destiny.

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Who wants to receive messages from desperate Turks, Arabs and Germans?? Might as well kill yourself.

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German mating rituals are just really weird. Try going to an outdoor music event and flashing random women your cock. They seem to be into that here.

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Lol, that’s hilarious.

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I have even heard women complaining about dating here because they are never hit on or complimented by men in this city. Decent looking women.

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Forget it as a woman too.
I’m the relationship type of girl, so I don’t really date casually. I go out only if I genuine like the guy at first glance, then we take it from there...
I tried a relationship in this city for a while and it killed my soul. I never had such a weird partner. Nothing this bad. I am out of dating after this traumatic one, even considering playing the „save myself from marriage“ card from now on. Literally. It will at least keep me away from more weirdos as apparently sex is like blowing your nose around here.I’ll be boring them to death if I don’t spread my legs from a first date. Good!

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OK, I thought it was only the women who were weirdos, so it's the guys as well. My last girl'friend' destroyed my soul as well as stripping me of every ounce of confidence, took me two years to find myself again. Never met so many creepy females and most of them believe Feminist propaganda that is laughed at in any other country. Here's what I mean by that kookykimbo.tumblr.com

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If you move to Berlin you can forget everything you've ever done! People don't communicate together in Berlin, you'll never find friends, and Berliners will always tell you that you're a stranger. If you go to the club you'll be there alone and you'll be out there too. Berlin is a city full of aliens!

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even considering playing the „save myself from marriage“ card from now on. Literally. It will at least keep me away from more weirdos as apparently sex is like blowing your nose around here.I’ll be boring them to death if I don’t spread my legs from a first date. Good!" ROFL

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Berliners don't know what the difference is between tolerance and ignorance and between assertiveness and aggression!

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Berliners don't know which side is right and which left ..

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OP hit right it my feels with that statement...
It’s traumatic how monstrous that can be.

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14 Autos brennen in Prenzlauer Berg – Staatsschutz ermittelt
Stand: 13:51 Uhr
Ausgebrannte Fahrzeuge am Kollwitzplatz: Dort brannte am frühen Morgen elf Fahrzeuge lichterloh. Auch in der angrenzenden Knaackstraße brannten geparkte Fahrzeuge

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man I love the smell of burning autos in the morning....smells like....Antifa!

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Typical of Berlin Lefty-Antifa imbecile Marxist-thugs.

They deserve to work off the damage at €50 per day in jail, for a Mercedes that should be about 10 years, and pipe into their cells Donald Trump's successes for the USA economy, 24/7.

I've never met such brainwashed and braindead people anywhere in the world, they are like Zombies "burn the car, burn the car, smash all non-Lefties, smash all non-Lefties, get drunk, dope out, get drunk, dope out".

Can hardy wait for the day they bulldoze their filthy squats. But even the cops are scared of these new brown shirts.

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Won't last much longer,they had their five minutes,as a human being,of feeling powerful,however,as they are not powerful,at all,in any way,nature has a way of balancing things out,game is up for these absolute losers and cowards,just wait and see

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Can't come soon enough, Berlin would be a much better place without them. They are not even creative, in fact most creative people have left Berlin, only non-talented, mentally retarded Lefties remain.

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If you drive a car in Berlin you deserve it!!! Our public transport is the best in the world and only rich Schwaben drive their cars in the city!!! fornicate GENTRIFICATION fornicate GOOGLE fornicate BUSINESSMEN IN BERLIN!!!!

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I DID NOT WRITE FORNICATE I WROTE FUCK!!!!

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the above must be sarcastic..Berlin public transport is decent, but many U Banh stations and really filthy and ghetto with all kinds of crack heads hanging out in them...plus the stench on many lines, especially the U8

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I agree, the public transport i n fantastic, but the people on it, OMFG. Every day you have to rub shoulders with the scum of the earth, but mostly I ride a bicycle.

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Wtf? Where do you guys come from??? Berlin public transport is fcking sht!

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Ok, the streets are crowded with annoying German drivers. All because it’s a little sun out. Do they all call off from work simultaneously or what? Wonderful place Berlin is, right? Where you have people driving luxury cars but don’t work. Some body tell me where you can find a job where you work only five hours. But you can still manage to afford a 50 thousand euro Mercedes and live in Zehlendorf.

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Most Germans who are wealthy inherited their money. Social mobility isn't really possible here, at least not upwards.

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For luxury cars you can get currently awesome relatively cheap leasing offers. The manufacturers cannot sell them with discount, which would impairs the prices and brand. So they offer leasing for a bargain.

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Originally from the US (New York, to be exact). Pros and cons of leaving Berlin:
CONS:
1. Would have to temporarily set up shop with the 'rents while I look for work
2. Would be fit, happy, going to the gym again at 6 am, eating Whole Foods (not this German crap they peddle off as "edible."
3. Would be able to establish a network of friends
4. More opportunities to make money.

PROS of Berlin:
...?

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Yeah, I broken it up. That's what happens with no sleep during an argument with a soon to be German ex-bf while simultaneously drinking tea and working on my thesis methodology. Gotta love this place...

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Pros of Berlin:
- State-sanctioned mono-culture: Never be unsure of how what stance your conversation partner will have on any given topic
- Living amongst mixed social groups: Enjoy living right below a social welfare recipient who screens and throws beer bottles at the walls of his apartment all night while still paying the full market price for your abode
- Gender neutral bathrooms: No need to fight the good fight for gender equality for the non-binary out there; bushes, trees and lamp posts right next to the street are all unisex so don't be shy to let is fly.
- No more racism: After WW2 Germany was famous for banning racism and insults and therefore neither exist there anymore. Just ignore the fact that literally no one has black friends and there are virtually zero Turkish politicians or civil servants. Germany beat racism, period!
- No problematic speech: America's free speech laws are troublesome! People can just say any old thing they think of. Well those clever Germans found a fix for that! Never again be triggered by dangerous ideas or symbols. But don't worry, if Germany has its way they will also have jurisdiction over American servers (finance.yahoo.com/news/german-official-wants-target-outside-191838452.html)
- No more sensationalist news outlets: Tired of living in fear when your local news channel reports on violent crime? Worried about copycat suicidalists when the government posts statistics on suicide? Worry not in Berlin! The government and media work hand-in-hand here to make sure no negative information reaches the public. Enjoy peace of mind knowing that you will never know how dangerous this country really is.
- German food is the best in the world: Ever heard the German saying "Schwarzbrot macht Wangen rot, Weißbrot macht tot!"? It's true! Dark German bread is actually medicine, along with German schnapps, German tea and German homeopathics! The caramel coloring and molasses added to the bread makes it a superfood! But just make sure you don't add that same caramel coloring to soda because then it's a carcinogen
- Cheaper water: It's widely reported that Berlin has some of the most expensive water in Europe, but that is short-sighted. It is socially acceptable to bathe only once per week here, meaning water is actually LESS expensive. Do you even math?
- Religious freedom: Germany is a bastion of light in upholding religious freedom for all of its citizens as long as you are Christian or Jewish. Banning headscarves for public servants in sensible and actually PROMOTES religious freedom (please ignore the crucifixes and religious studies classes in every school in Bavaria). Maintaining a government database on Scientologists also promotes freedom of religion because it's not German.
- Best media in the world: Propaganda tax, ahem, I mean the Rundfunkbeitrag makes German media the envy of the world. It's difficult to walk into any cinema on earth without seeing a slew of German films being shown. From Run, Lola, Run! to Das Boot, the world just cannot get enough of German film engineering from 30 years ago.
- Close access to all of Europe: Germany is the heart of Europe. Enjoy visiting poverty-stricken areas of Europe every weekend so you can stretch your tiny German paycheck and feel like you are actually almost lower middle class somewhere.
- Birth control: Birth control in Germany is so cheap that the population here has been declining for DECADES! And hey, if you forget the take birth control and miss the abortion date because you're so high on every drug conceivable then don't worry. There's always the possibility of the super-late-term abortion; just utilize your Merkel-given right to not vaccinating and inevitably expose your child to the measles epidemic present in every Kindergarten in the country.

Honestly I could list pros to Berlin all day but I think you get the idea. This city is full of opportunities that trump every other country, especially Amerikkka! And, speaking of Trump, he is a big fat jerk! How could you want to live in a country ruled by such a xenophobe (please ignore the fact that the German ruling party the CDU's officials have gone on record saying foreigners should be forced to speak German even within their homes)? How could you live in a country full of people who are in DEBT (please ignore the fact that home/car ownership in America is much higher than in Germany). How could you want to live in a country where public bathrooms are free and ubiquitous? You must be brainwashed because all of the expats from America I have ever met have gone to great lengths to convince me, and themselves, that their lives in Germany are better.

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Pros of living in Germany:
I feel safer here because guns are not widely available. I know everything can be turned into a weapon like a car but assault rifles do far more damage.
The idea of crazy people carrying guns freaks me out.
There is efficient public transportation.
Health insurance is affordable compared to the U.S.
Overall, I still prefer the U.S.

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I respect your opinion, but on a per capita basis more people in Germany die from preventable communicable diseases every year than people in America from gun homicides.

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Another pro living in Germany:
You don't get easily locked up for non violent offences like drugs. The cops here are not as corrupt and violent as in the States.
In U.S., a cop can stop you, find weed and take away your car. Civil forfeiture is a disgrace.
If you travel with more than 10k dollars, by law police can take your money and never give it back to you.
Here I can call the police knowing that I won't be accidently shot because they thought my cell phone is a gun.

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I have not looked the stats of how many Germans die from communicable diseases.
I have all my shots done and maintain personal hygiene.
There are way too many gun deaths in U.S. even accounting for suicides.
I know I am more likely to die in a car crush or cancer. The idea of crazy people with guns is much more fear inducing.

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At least in the US the cops cannot search you or your car or even demand ID without cause. In Germany... forget about saying no to anything a cop demands. Also enjoy being fined for hate thoughts.

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Just look at factors that actually definitely influence quality of life: people, weather, potential income. Germany loses hands down. For people who have no drive, skills or intelligence Germany offers a decent quality of life compared to elsewhere. But if you have any motivation at all it's bad.

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To the person who wrote the long post: you sir are ahead of your time as a german hater. I salute you, and wish you the best. One of the best rants i’ve ever read recently

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To the writer of the long post: Sir, I bow down in front of you. Greetings from my fcuking office full of retards.

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A few pages back someone mentioned measles here and it made me worry so I looked at the underlying statistics. It is weird that Germany supposedly has a vaccination rate that's about 4 percentage points higher than the U.S. but still has about 10 times the number of measels infections per year. It must be hygiene. People here always picking their faces, freaking around with their noses, chewing on fingers, not washing hands. Definitely something beyond vaccinations causing this problem.What else could it possibly be?

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You are definitely on to something. I also have noticed an increase of public nose picking - especially in Berlin. It is a filthy habit and spreads disease yet people do it and see nothing wrong with this and they will do it right in front of others without any shame - parents used to smack there kids when they did and for a very good reason. Now parents treat their kids like High Royalty so there you have it. Filth is everywhere in Berlin.

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What is with these crauts and blowing their noses so much? Can't do anything in public without hearing some jerry losing a war with a paper tissue. Disgusting people.

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I blow my nose so much because there ia way too much pollen in the air. I don't even have allergies. The pollen here is just extreme.

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Imagine how much more arrogant Germans would be if they had ever won a war.

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Vegan/vegetarian/hippies-Nazis. They gonna do their speech about how awful things you put in your body(specially while you are eating something), how they refuse to eat this and that or drink this or that because of this special ingredient, but they gonna make the apology on how amazing it is to mix speed and keta, hero & coke or whatever drugs these piece of sh*its put in their body and use to numb themselves in this hellhole that is this city. Such hypocrites. Im happy i have only 3 months left here.

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Yes, they hurt themselves., not other living creatures ;)

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That's not the point here, the point is they should shut the f*ck up and mind their own business instead of doing their vegan-nazie crusade on everyone, specially when they're hypocrite.

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They're hurting my wallet when I have to pay for their medical treatment through socialized healthcare.

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I've been vegan for 20 years and never have to go to the doctor, and the reason I am vegan is not a trendy one, it's for the sake of animals who treated so badly in factory farms to bring the price of meat down. I don't push veganism and the greater majority fo vegansI know don't do it either, I find it's more the meat eating people who push meat eating down our throats just because we say we are vegan. In fact, the ONLY good thing about Berlin for me is so many vegan options, the majority fo humans here are totally phucked up.

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Above. Sake of the animals... Yeah, you’re exactly that trendy vegan. Do you use electricity, a washine machine? Smart phone? Wear clothes? You get what I am saying... I personally don’t buy the sake of animals when most of modern world goods and appliances are made by Mexican/Chinese/Pakistani in a sweat shop somewhere. It’s hypocritical. Next we gonna have protests saying chickens have equal rights with humans...

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WTF are you on, I think you need to change your medication, what has any of your rant got to do with feeling empathy with suffering animals you phucking moron retard.

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Vegans will always find reasons to ‘put it out there’ and usually it’s their ‘strong morality’. If you’re a better person, go be!! In silence! Talk with the animals like Snow White! Maybe they care...

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A vegan, a German FKK-enthusiast and a bitcoin investor walk into a bar. Who tells you about their thing first?

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I think you'll find it's the meat eaters who want t bait vegans who keep the conversations going, they want to defend their decision to keep supporting animal cruelty, but they only fool themselves, their selfishness is not hard to see through.

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Lol. If you’re not a vegan you automatically support animal cruelty? Wtf?
And by the way, there are regulations by the EU on how to kill animals for consumption. You cannot actually kill a pig with stones until it dies... But like Jehova Witnesses, this is another type of cultist thinking with no research backup.


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  Anonymous wrote:

Germans are just unfriendly and rude! Not possible to have any kind of pleasant conversation with them. They are super weird!!

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The world would be better if they all just locked themselves in their apartments and never left.

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A Berlin Lefty-Feminist wet dream www.youtube.com/watch Don't sell your freedom to them, stay strong

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Men get testerical at the slightest provocation. We need to make all decisions about their reproductive health for their own good.

If we left it up to them, they would be giving it away willy-nilly, with no care of the consequences.

They have to understand that they embody the scientifically proven Joseph complex and we need them to be pure as well as slutty. They should be thankful that we can legislate for them. We do it out of love and respect.

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How does this apply to Berlin? Birth control here IS NOT covered by health insurance for anyone except CHILDREN.

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Pretty sure this doesn't apply to German men as they all seem impotent. There is otherwise no explanation for the low birth rate here.

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German Women are annoying miserable little cunts with mental disability.No Wonder that they get slapped so often by refugees.

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hahah sad, miserable neckbeard. Go back to the basement and keep wanking, you'll never get any pu**y, whether German, Jamaican, Spanish or Chinese. Loser!

By the way, German women are some of the most gorgeous, well proportioned, intelligent, and sexually creative on earth. They can just detect pathetic losers like you from a mile away! ;)

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German women and Berlin-fied women:
Gorgeous. For a pile of smelly dirt with hairy armpits? Sure!
Well proportioned. For a horse looking block of meat with wide flat butts and big feet? Sure!
Intelligent? Well, frustrated, hateful and savage? Sure thing a sign of intelligence.
Sexually creative. This we can agree. Big bunch of diseased wh*res. It’s so creative how they pick their mates. (check below the post of the dude taking a piss in the park)

On a serious note:
German women are dumb, ugly, unfeminine and one of the reasons men go gay in this city.

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All German women go frigid after 30 at the latest. Blame the huge number of mating-aged broads on the birth control pill. That or familial sexual abuse. Watchijg your dad jiggle his penis every day in your nudist household will really turn you off sex.

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"All German women go frigid after 30 at the latest" Most german women stop taking the pill around age 30 due to hormonal effects on their bodies and in general women are in their sexual peak in their 30s (tons of studies on this), so you couldn't be more wrong. They can be chunky and don't have the physical elegance and passion of other ethnicities, but there certainly aren't more mental deseases in women here, that's just a pathetic statement. OP is a butthurt, rejected loser. Check out the incel subreddit, you'll find new friends ;)

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German females are feminine?? Attractive?!? What!!!

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Almost 40% of women in committed relationships in Germany are on the pill. That's twice the amount in most other non-continental countries. The pill is definitely a congributing factor in why German women are sexual failures. Lack of emotion is another. Also, I imagine, dealing with German men is the death knell

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I had more women than you, you filthy German Son of a Whore. By the Way German Women are one of the sluttiest and Ugly Women on earth. Your German Mom love Black and Muslim penises ,Fucking vagina Son. :)

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German women: cheap, ugly massive sluts. There are prostitutes more selective than the German buckets.

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"German women are some of the most gorgeous, well proportioned, intelligent, and sexually creative on earth"

Yeah...that's why there are so many homosexuals in Germany, or men who want to marry an ugly Asian woman. Or men who are asexual. Or men wanting to have lots of children. Yeah...Germany's birthrate is so high because of those gorgeous German females.

Fucking gas yourself.

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Are all Germans as retarded as the guy above?

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Males, yes

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I can clearly see the powerless anger and frustration in the 1st comment. Looks like ugly undesirable Greta with big feet butthurting lol.

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  Anonymous wrote:

Just. How on Earth can Germany rank #4 in HDI? Looks much more like #50.

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It only measures three things: average life span, education and earnings. A homogeneous white society means average life spans are longer. It only measures years spent in education, so 10 years of school + 3 year apprenticeship OR 13 years + 5 years of college make it seem like people here are educated. Wages... they suck here. The 50 years of education probably cancel that out. The whole index is a joke metric that Scandinavians and northern euros, the SADDEST PEOPLE ON EARTH, thought up to reward themselves.

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My top 3 sad popukation/boring country:

1. Sweden/Norway
2. Germany
3. Finland

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