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This is a pretty good point and it's almost still an actual upload.
m.youtube.com/watch
www.exberliner.com/features/zeitgeist/does-germany-have-a-rape-problem/
"The defendant, a 26-year-old Algerian man, was accused of having encircled a woman with a group of other men and groping her genital area – which would be characterised as sexual assault in most countries, but not necessarily according to German law as it stands now. “If the offender didn’t use force or threats, then it’s not liable for punishment. It’s not even coercion,” says family law specialist Theda Giencke. The men’s actions could potentially be prosecuted as “attacks” or “insults”, but not sex offences. “Just groping somebody is not enough to qualify, and that was the case in Cologne most of the time.”"
Germany 5 years ago, folks.
Of course Germany's a pedo paradise. Don't know who downvoted that. Just google any of the following terms for a bunch of true news stories that sound like Reichsbürger conspiracies:
Kentler Experiment
- Rote Freiheit afterschool program
- Körper, Liebe, Doktorspiele government literature
- BAG SchwuP
- Daniel Cohn-Bendit
- Boystown darknet page
- Lügde camping site
- Sebastian Edathy
That's what I was able to come up with off the top of my head. No doubt there's waaaay more that could be shared.
www.state.gov/reports/2020-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/germany/
"Crime statistics indicate approximately 43 children became victims of sexual violence daily in 2019. The number of child pornography cases processed by police rose by 65 percent in 2019, to approximately 12,260.
In June police uncovered a child abuse ring in Muenster, NRW. The main suspect was a 27-year-old man suspected of sexually abusing the 10-year-old son of his partner; he also produced pornography of the abuse and sold it online, and offered his foster son to others. As of September there were 11 suspects in custody.
In October 2019 a 43-year-old man was arrested in Bergisch-Gladbach, NRW, for severe child abuse. The case evolved into a large-scale investigation involving 400 police detectives and a network of at least 30,000 suspects. As of August authorities had identified 87 suspects. In the first case to go to trial, a 27-year-old man was sentenced to 10 years in prison for his role in the network. On September 11, the regional court sentenced a man from Krefeld for 13.5 years’ and a man from Viersen to 14.5 years’ imprisonment. The two 39-year-old men were convicted of serious child sexual abuse and of possession and distribution of child pornographic material. Investigations continued."
From the 2019 report:
"On July 12, a parliamentary investigating committee opened an investigation into possible failures, omissions, misjudgments, and misconduct of the NRW state government in the child abuse case. Problems with the investigation included the disappearance from the local police station of 155 USB drives containing child pornography, the placement of a foster child with one of the main perpetrators, and concerns that authorities did not follow up on an earlier suspicion of child abuse. As of November the investigation was ongoing."
Not related to children, but in Germany it is permissible to forcibly touch a woman's genitals as long as you are at a street party:
"In February a Cologne judge dismissed sexual assault proceedings against a defendant who allegedly grabbed a woman under her skirt in November 2019. The judge argued the alleged assault was minor and took place at the start of the carnival season. A local advocacy group against sexual violence criticized the decision in a public letter and protested in front of the court."
You cannot make this stuff up.
Is it possible to make real friends here? Except weirdos who are on alcohol, drugs, bad to worst sex, and people laughing at you, talking behind your back, and make company to you just to compare their lives with yours? Answers would be pretty much appreciated. Thx!
Someone below said the Berlin DJ's are good. Good for what, switching their iPods on and off and twirling a few dials here and there. They're not even musicians, and the crap they play is masquerading as music. For the last time, IT'S NOT MUSIC, IT'S NOISE. A three year old could make it with a computer and software. Whenever anyone says they love the techno scene, I never talk to them again because I then know they're moronic airheads..
Berlin has one major problem. What they call Techno here is just fu*king EDM! For example, House Music is better in London and the whole London dance scene is a thousand times better than what Berlin has to offer. You don't like Techno, or you hate Berlin? Techno originated in the US, just like House. Why do people think Berlin = Techno? I'm convinced Berlin = Hipster stinking *hit, not Techno.
OMG, don't start me on dumbasfuck rappers, the future derelicts of Berlin. The rest of the world was over techno many years ago. If you need to take drugs to be able to stand listening to monotonous noise because everyone else is listening to it, you have to question these people's emotional health.
Listen to these albums, and compare them to techno or rap 'artists'. Rap 'songs' all sound the same. What's your favourite 3 albums that that have real singers and real musicians.
Tanya Donnelly - Whiskey Ghost Tango
A Fine Frenzy (Alison Sudol) - One Cell and The Sea
Sixpence None The Richer - Sixpence None The Richer
Sarah Blasko - What The Sea Wants - or the best of on Youtube etc.
Ricki Lee Jones - Ricki Lee Jones (1st album)
The XX - XX album
If you hate the clubs and DJs here, just imagine how disappointed you'll be when you grow out of your clubbing phase and desperately search for ANYTHING about living here that is worthwhile. Then again, if you're living in Berlin, then you'll probably never grow out of it.
I will pay you 100 EUR in the cryptocurrency of your choice if you can find anyone complaining about public urination in any park on a Google Maps review.
The phases of moving to Germany
Phase 1 - Naiveté: Eager, curious, motivated. You jump through the bureaucratic mess to get a job, a visa, an apartment, a bank account, health insurance, an account with the TV tax authority. It's a lot of work but you managed it. You start learning German. You feel like this will be good.
Phase 2 - Denial: You've been here a while. You've improved your German a lot. You've stagnated in your job but it's probably your fault. You're just not German enough yet, i.e. you still occasionally apologize for mistakes and accept guilt when you've not been perfect. You begin to notice the small annoyances in Germany but dismiss them as trivial: the tiny supermarkets, the unfriendly locals, the lack of privacy, the poor soundproofing in apartments
Phase 3 - Maturity/ Acceptance: You have now noticed that everything about Germany is nothing but advertising/brainwashing and cognitive dissonance. You accept that nothing in Germany works efficiently. You expect everything to go wrong unless it is extremely carefully planned and you now understand why Germans are so against any form of "Vorfeiern" - because nothing ever turns out right here. You realize that the people here are incompetent and yet somehow arrogant about it. You notice the filth in this city. You notice that the German internet is heavily censored. You notice things will never get better. You realize that none of your expat friends (because you still won't have any German friends) has lived here longer than 5 years. You notice all the weird 40-something year old in milling about parks with no real reason for being there. You notice the real need for public toilets. You notice that somehow you appear to be the only person in your apartment building with overpriced rent who actually has a job. You don't feel like trying to talk to anyone about this anymore because most of your expat friends are defending Germany. You'd lock yourself in your apartment all the time, but you can hear your neighbors watching TV and peeing and sneezing and the sound begins to drive you insane. You look at real estate prices outside of the city and realize that the cheapest home on the market is still the equivalent of 35 years' worth of a median German salary. You grow used to opening your mailbox to find random surprise bills. By this point, day to day life feels pretty much like closing the "accept cookies" popup on every single webpage now for 18 hours a day.
Germans* even gaslight other Germans. Check this:
www.spin.de/forum/msg-archive/3/2017/04/680362
There is no such thing as a "privacy curtain" in German hospitals. If you've ever had the misfortune of being treated in one, you know that no hospital in Germany has a track for privacy curtains. Literally zero hospitals here have them. But that won't stop Germans from bullying anyone here who has somehow managed to survive childhood with any remaining desire for privacy or modesty.
*Just to clarify, I am not even sure that these weird kinds of people in online discussions are "normal" people. I am about 99% sure that there's a leftover program in the German government that pays ex-Stasis to discredit anyone criticizing Germany by any means possible.
www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/nylqw4/i_am_leaving_germany_after_3_years_to_return_home/
Read the comments.Typical.
"I was actually laughing and dismissed everything you said, because I can not believe someone living in Germany for three years studying business science saying German is a socialist country."
That must German equivalent of Godwin's Law. Maybe we should call it Stefan's Law.
“As an online discussion criticizing Germany grows longer, the probability of anyone not blindly praising German to be labelled as American approaches one.”
Also this:
" Literally all your problems can be solved by learning the language. Are you at "deutschkurs B2" or a TRUE B2 level? Those two are worlds apart."
When I had only been here for 2 years I also believed this. After 5 I thought that maybe it was just my accent. After 10 I realized it's just part of German culture. I speak German at C2 level and people often tell me that they can't even hear that I have any discernible accent anymore. But any time I ever say anything that isn't 100% in compliance with an opinion you would read on Spiegel.de I am reduced to my nationality. During reviews at work supervisors say I am good at my particular line of work because of my nationality.
If you're a foreigner in Germany you completely cease to be an individual because the German psyche simply cannot accept that not everyone is a xerox copy of every other member of their identity group.
Noticed this one guy from that thread. He is a freaking boss at humiliating Germans RE: their own country. I am surprised he hasn't been banned from r/Germany yet.
www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/o0psab/can_someone_eli5_how_the_school_system_in_germany/h1y2ugm/
Can't help but notice a LOT of people complaining that the guy called Germany socialist. It's actually creepy to me that so many people are saying "GERMANY ISN'T SOCIALIST!" while at the same time saying "AMERICA IS 100% CAPITALIST". Not really sure how one can have such a nuanced understanding of what socialism is but still consider the US capitalist when taking into account pretty much every economic and fiscal decision in the US over the past 20 months.
This is exactly why I want to leave Berlin. I know that life in another city and another country can be good!
m.youtube.com/watch
it took me a while to get my head around this and i am still shocked by it but Germans are basically.only interested in you when you serve a purpose to them. Everyrhing they do has a logical purpose to it and people are objects to be used in that goal. People also have very defined roles to them like classmate, work colleague or teammate. There is no real mixing between these contexts and usually you stay in that context and never enter the context of "privat" which is almost exclusively for family and people they have known forever.
This is a great insight.
Also they are not genuine at all. They would hang out, act friendly and everything solely in the context it serves them still. Such as for example, work colleagues asking to hang out, will still be focused on gaining something from getting close, but never a friendship.
More likely, if they’re into you, might try to get laid… but that’s about it.
As someone who has genuine friendship from all sorts of contexts, including former work people, I find it super weird.
I stopped going to social outings… with Germans from work.
All comments are on point.
I have realised this fact when I was master student in Germany. If you make a team with Germans they become like the most friendly people on the entire universe (they even pay for the coffee for the whole team. Can you imagine how generous they become? :D) because by being teammate with you, they can benefit from you to get better grade. The rest of the time, they don't even say hi when they see you on the street
You wrote: the private room is almost exclusively for family and people you've known forever. I don't think this is just a German problem. I've been experiencing this phenomenon for a long time across Europe, and I've felt it most in Germany, but also in Austria, Switzerland, the Czech Republic and Poland, and so on. Do people in Europe like forced solitude? Do the Europeans think that this is the right way? Where did this behaviour come from? I'm sure they don't get it from the USA!
I am European, but no, this is not a common thing on the whole continent.
I had a healthy way of connecting with people, making friends, staying away from the ones that did not float my boat etc.
Here I think it’s also a forced tolerance, if I may say, super hippie but fake.
Where I am from we make friends with likeminded people, we don’t hinder the ones we don’t click with, no hate… we live and let live. If I find you’re not my type of person, I will probably be meh, but not try to force you.
For example, I am not religious. If someone is to much into their faith, I respect that as it’s not my business, but if every conversation is “missionary talk” I strive to let them be… not go into a debate and bad mood. Most likely, I’ll just avoid hanging out too much not to waste my energy.
We owe nothing to anyone. We can curate the people we like to hang out with…
Here it’s like they want to bring the anxiety and conflict. They like connecting with different people with different views and start polemics to fulfill their need of being always right and superior, guilt and shame and bla.
That’s not a thriving, nice way of socialising.
I also think it’s hypocritical as fuck…
"I remember when a German invited me to the dinner party and then asked us all to pay. Ridiculous"
It seems to be normal here to invite people over to your flat and serve them bad food and then try to guilt them into paying you 10 € for the displeasure. I have experienced this and heard others talk about it several times. I usually just try to avoid social gatherings with Germans.
Even if the clubs reopen. I doubt that they would accept my vaccine passport as it’s not German. Just another excuse to be xenophobic for them
Berlin doesn’t agree with me because I am play hard / work hard. Berlin is play hard / work minimally or not at all. And then there are some cities that are work hard / no play. What is a good work hard / play hard city for me to move next ?
Germans whose parents sent them to an international school and bought their flats are all “fuck capitalism” bc they never once worked for anything
Doesn’t bErlin seem rather narcissistic? Everyone is constantly focused on identity, themselves, us v them, germans v non Germans..... they seem to miss the bigger picture