... oh, and what exactly is a 'hipster'? Something like a 'beatnik'??
Hipsters are stoned trust fund babies with no talent who regularly raid their little sister's closet to find clothes and then try so hard to look act and feel independent and hip and individual that they end up looing, acting and feeling exactly like everyone else in their talentless group of idiot friends. And tgey grow facial hair and stink because they think personal hygiene is so bourgeois.
Bio this, Bio that, mothers a go-go shoving Bretzeln and sausages in their 'bio babies' gobs to shut them up. Broken glass all over the streets inter-mingled with dog shit. More Bio Markts selling Tabacco! Yes Tabacco! Smoke-filled public spaces and more pregnant women pushing 2 year olds from Bio Markt to Bio Markt mainly.
Have you ever made a compliment to strangers in a Club? If not, you will regret very soon.. Goddamned
The people are rude. Most of them are also unattractive, dress like homeless or hipsters. But realy their character and the way they act to "out siders" is a disgrace. I lived there for over 2 years so I know what I'm saying.
The "tolerant left-wing"(in the loosest sense of the term) people who are the most intolerant people in the freaking world. Neo Nazis are bad, we get it. Just thank your lucky freaking stars that they are in such a minority in this country, that they are almost completely irrelevant on the political landscape. Of course though, 20,000 AntiFa kids will turn up at every single demonstration or every single place where one person has a shaved head and claim they are living within the 4th Reich. Take a leaf out of the rest of the developed world's book and laugh at the cunts, stop pretending they are a massive threat to you and your cosy white middle-class German existence.
That brings me on to the Anti-Deutsch. What is wrong with these people? WE GET IT, YOUR ANCESTORS KILLED A LOT OF PEOPLE. If you continue to exacerbate the problem by telling everyone Foreign that they are under attack and living in a Nazi Hellhole, how will things get any better? Wake up the freaking reality of Germany 2014, it's not as bad as you stupid kids like to believe and have everyone else believe.
On a more superficial note: I hate British people with double-barrelled surnames and bottomless bank accounts who move to Neukoelln, Kreuzberg and Friedrichshain to do absolutely fornicate all useful apart from drink, take drugs and pretend they are living some sort of Bowie-esque creative dream, dressed like Joseph and his technifuckingcolour raincoat, despite having endless cash.
THE OBSESSION WITH JUDAISM. Meine gute. If I meet one more German who pretends he or she is Jewish or has Jewish roots or has some massive connection to Israel, just because their ancestors committed the worst genocide in history, I'll commit one of my own. I mean, seriously? Do you think that's what the global Jewish community want? A load of guilty Germans sympathising with the cause. Of course NOT.
You people describing the worst aspects as you see it are actually reminding me why I like Berlin. I come from a place full of people like you. All "professionals" (thats actually an anagram of "assholes") , everythings shiny and clean, everyone stinks of some kind of expensive chemical cocktail, every third csr is a Nercedes, every fifth a Bentley and every tenth one a Ferrari (I am exaggerating only very slightly) This place (a small town in England) is freaking hell to endure if you dont own a Jaguar or wear Armani, every day for your lot in my "home" is a freaking fashion parade and for me being insulted by strangers for the way I look, dress, dont cut the mustard.
I go to Berlin and I feel like Im at home. Nobody gives a fuck. The very thing you hate is a) what I like about it and b) why your tribe of shiny happy assholes are turning every city on Earth into clone-zone...and I dont mean the fetishwear shop.
Yes, you are right, your freaking "professionals" are going to do the same to Berlin. Ive seen it happening. Well take care what you wish for. Someday you wont be considered up to the shiny standard either...and where will you have to escape to?
The worst thing about Berlin is that in parts we have to meet assholes with your attitudes.
I am sure you either a dj or a hipster. If you think that a city and its inhabitants are nice because you can dress the way you want then i am sorry but you must grow the fornicate up. These people and this town have lack of real human relationships, oh and please go out and look for a job then we can talk about it again
"If you think that a city and its inhabitants are nice because you can dress the way you want then i am sorry but you must grow the fornicate up."
well that just about sums up my case in my favour. Anyone who thinks people must be bullied into dressing and looking according to fashion and treated as pariahs if they dont has to be called a fascist. So, by your own words, thats what you must be.
"These people and this town have lack of real human relationships,"
Funny...thats exactly what people have been telling me about where I live in UK for like thirty years...I have at last come to agree with them. The real relationships I do have are in Berlin.
That was me last two comments.
"oh and please go out and look for a job then we can talk about it again "
Well your stereotyping, money centred assumptions only serve too confirm the assertions I made earlier. You just wont get it, til you are older and no longer hip and the shiny happy assholes of subsequent generations who take your place on the clone conveyeor start treating you the way you now treat others. What goes around comes around.
And another thing...none of the people commenting here seem to be referring to anything outside centtral Berlin. Name a city in the UK where you can travel by urban transit to an extensive ancient forest...not a poxy woods...inside the city limits. Name a city in UK of which 30% plus of the area is comprised of lake and forest. Name a place in the UK where you can fornicate truly beautiful women in clean regulated businesses, for a standard 60 Euros a time. Women who are not just cnnilingual but multi-lingual and strive assiduously to achieve a result...way beyond the allotted time. Name a town in UK where you can go on a range any day and hire a fifty calibre Desert Eagle for the kick of it. Where in UK can you take a parachute jump at a site inside the city boundaries...maybe there is somewhere, Londo has such a humongusly exaggerated definition of the chunk of Britain that its "greater" area encompasses...but thats cheating. Which British town has an indoor tropical resort (Center Parcs on steroids, in the worlds largest single volume structure) right on its boundaries.
Now dont get me wrong, London is on a balance of criteria probably the greatest city on Earth and has been since the fall of Rome. No, Berlin is not a "real city" in the way that Paris or London is. Its more like a weird agglomoration of twelve towns. But how the fornicate can anyone who isnt a millionaire actually live inside real London, as opposed to shuttling to shitholes like Croydon.
...AND...no I do hate many things about Berlin. First up being the freaking German officials. Arrogant and as thick as shit. By "officials" I mean everyone with responsibility for running things. From the hatchet faced Kommandant who shrieks "I dont speak English...this is Germanty..." AT A FECKING TOURIST DESK for fcks sake...to the asshats who "run" the U Bahn. I can for example point out the fact that...for a while now, at Alexanderplatz U there is a pair of escalators down to U5 and BOTH RUN DOWNWARDS! Yep, no better image of how "intelligent" Berlin Germans are. Yes, Berlin is dysfunctional, dirty, aggravating, but I still prefer it to Shiny Town UK where I ...cant say "live", but exist.
When I first read this post I thought, meh let the trolls take care of him but this ramble has some interesting material I'd like to talk about now. First, about me, I mainly follow this site because I like to witness how people have sudden insights (and I like to contribute with my two cents) and might finally get to escape from Berlin, it's like watching people running away from the Matrix, because that's what happened to me and how I felt. That's why I like sharing my thoughts here so no more people can get ensnared in that shit-ho-le called Berlin.
"I wear jeans and a leather overcoat. I'm in my fifties. Try telling me you don't wear designer labels and the latest haircut / beard. Well your stereotyping, money centered assumptions only serve too confirm the assertions I made earlier. You just wont get it... take your place on the clone conveyor."
Dude in his 50s, probably married to a German waifu, maybe a kid-teenager child, don't mind me, just doin' some profiling.
"Name a place in the UK where you can fornicate truly beautiful women in clean regulated businesses, for a standard 60 Euros a time. Women who are not just cnnilingual (WAT?) but multi-lingual and strive assiduously to achieve a result...way beyond the allotted time. Name a town in UK where you can go on a range any day and hire a fifty calibre Desert Eagle for the kick of it."
Now, that is more like it, that's Berlin, a dude in his 50s who's grateful for clean 60€ hookers who work past the 1h time limit, dude, you sound like the guy who said that Berlin is great because it has 2€ doeners.
And a .50 caliber Desert Eagle, this is before or after the hooker? You should check out the deep south all, the hookers you can f-uck plus the biggest badass weapons you can get and Wendy's or deep fried chicken if you prefer. Yea, very very classy, wait I was looking for the word trashy.
Dude, you are just reinforcing the stereotype of a white trashy Berliner, just stop embarrassing yourself.
"From the hatchet faced Kommandant who shrieks "I don't speak English...this is Germany...""
More white trash stuff but now from the locals.
"You just wont get it"
We always don't get it, or maybe we're too uncool or not hip enough.
Oh, but we do get it, You don't like professionals and capitalism is shit. Great, many people feel the same way, even professionals themselves, enslaved in a 9-5 job. If you think that Berlin is the place to escape to, your personal utopia, that's great too, I'd personally prefer a beach in Spain-Italy or maybe Pattaya, or if I was into some hippy-hippster stuff a commune lost in some random state where you can go to Burning Man every year.
The fact is that the world you grew up in is very different to the world, I think, many of the younger people in this website grew up in. I am not gonna dismiss your point here, your quest for uniqueness is remarkable (calling us clones was a little off the line though) so you arrived to Berlin in the late 90s I'm guessing. I know Berlin was a blast back then. Probably you even met your current partner in the 2000s but I'm just guessing. I guess younger generations are a little bit more pessimistic and disappointed than yours and more socially aware too. So for us, what we see in Berlin, is not as close as what you saw back in the day, everything is more competitive and rough in the real world and Berlin is just a joke if you keep seeing it long enough. That's what people mean when they say that Berlin is not a real city not that shi-t about different neighbors. Have you ever wondered why the average duration of young Europeans migrating to Germany is less than one year (yes, that statistic is real). It's because young Europeans don't see your Berlin. They see the post 2010 Berlin, a bland, gray city, without opportunities. But hey, you still can slack off in life and party while I still live in Berlin right? Wrong. They see a city where they can party, nothing special, just like any other city, so when it comes to pay the bills and have a real life with some meaning well forget about it, everyone will prefer another city. But the hipsters who live here!!!!!! well be grateful, they are injecting some real cash into your city. Because frankly, I don't know why they don't live in a nicer place.
"Yes, Berlin is dysfunctional, dirty, aggravating, but I still prefer it to Shiny Town UK where I ...cant say "live", but exist. "
Your call man, enjoy the cheap hookers. Plus there are more in life than that y'know, that the worst about Berlin, it blinds you to the nice things in life that can be found elsewhere so what you see in Berlin is all that there is. So that's the worst thing about Berlin, not professionals coming to your town. You think that people in Berlin don't give a fornicate about how much you own and that's the reason you feel comfortable even though the rest of the world do. I mean, seriously? Germans (even Berliners) are extremely superficial and greedy, now we can talk about “assholes with attitudes”. If they don't have dough they will act as if they don't care (hurr durr I'm an artist, imma punk...) but when they get it, oh man it gets ugly, so much so that they make fund babies look like the most cultured and educated people around...
@Martin implying I didn't had never approved my 2B German test. My Pals told me so what happened in Berlin, Why're you still there... so well nothing. Implying I'd moved to Berlin permanently. I live now in California thank you very much.
Thing I don't get is why berlin lovers are posting on here. Isn't there a berlinlover.de? Go post your cheer there, this site is precisely for ranting purposes.
Berlin.. the only place where you must have "Gute Deutschkenntnisse" to work as cleaner/Reinigungskraft. Because it is an easy language to learn right?
Erm... what? You moved to Berlin and you're complaining that employers want you to speak... German? Perhaps a bit far for cleaner jobs, sure. But I'm not sure that's strictly accurate. Seemingly a lot of workers have found their place in that sort of field without good German. Continue your search. Making an effort to learn German might not hurt either.
The self-assurance of a health insurance official
The self-assurance of a health insurance official at a major, major office in Berlin who informs the line of non-natives, “In Deutschland wird deutsch gesprochen” (“In Germany, one speaks German”). Right... For anyone who attempts at German, even advanced speakers, mind you, you are likely to be humiliated, corrected, shouted at more often, so you might as well resort to English and save yourself the bitter cultural learning lessons.
most overrated and boring place i lived. one of the best life changing decisions i made. There is nothing to do on the mostly rainy cold days culturally unless you pay for it. And on the sunny ones where do you go apart from to a pooping outdoor techno event. Everyone moans and smells, and the food places and bakeries are laughable. Slowly the sheepish party tourists and djs will leave in the next couple of years and local berliners will be left with high rents as the previous tourists will have put the price of everything up. Come to visit for a few days but dont live here the fotos here do it justice.
You must have such little imagination or ingenuity!! Like all the gay people who have to stay in Schöneberg because it's the 'gay area' then complain that there's not much to do once you've visited Mutscmann's and bought their little 'must have' items from MrB.
Think a little and investigate. Open your eyes!! I'm not saying it's perfect. Yes the “In Deutschland wird deutsch gesprochen” (“In Germany, one speaks German”) thing does exist but only by those with a chip on their shoulder, those who think it's their right to live forever in someone else's apartment and pay 95€ a month for the privilege FOREVER or until they decide to move on but won't because rents have risen (it's 2014 folks!!!), (wake-up!!).
Berlin is changing, yes but it's not the rip-off hell-hole like London is. Lets all hope it doesn't end up like that or even worse, Paris, Rome!!
The 'Category 3s' as I call them (previously mentioned earlier), who have lived here forever and are secretly pissed-off that the wall came down and now have no reason to be miserable are gladly dieing out and taking their bad taste/fashion (and bad breath), with them - “In Deutschland wird deutsch gesprochen” my freaking arse! Gladly, a new Berlin is developing. 'Category 3's' are becoming 'Category 1's' and a few '2s' making it a more tolerant place.
((They just need to adhere to the public smoking ban. What a farce that is Merkel/Wowereit..!
I really want to fill my lungs up with second-hand smoke and feel and small like an ash tray the next morning, don't I?!! - Stop!! I'm getting like the rest of the wingers on this site!))
Anyway, if you open your tired, bitter little eyes, you'll see Berlin as a refreshingly green, relatively unpolluted, free, safe city, a bit rough round the edges but still avoiding (in the main), to rip everyone off!
Enjoy Paris my friend...! ;-)
I'm now pissed-off that I've actually been drawn into this fucked-up site that must have been created by some poor troubled soul who has obviously experienced something really bad in Berlin to go to so much bother of creating a site such as this and show so much hate and encourage others to do the same.
Maybe a descendent from Hitler? Probably (and I hope), living back in their perfect native land.
I freaking hope it's not Germany!!!
"Lets all hope it doesn't end up like that or even worse, Paris, Rome"
I'm sorry but Paris' aesthetic merit and worth on every other criteria you mentioned is certainly better than Berlin.
"Anyway, if you open your tired, bitter little eyes, you'll see Berlin as a refreshingly green, relatively unpolluted, free, safe city, a bit rough round the edges but still avoiding (in the main), to rip everyone off!"
Sorry, apart from the greenery point (true but still... parks... great.) do you live in a different Berlin?
The people here are all such BUMS...and cheap...shit city...with poop people.
Berlin is full of: students, losers, cheapos and no arts at all ... at TOTAL shithole.
i CANNOT wait to leave this totally overrated, dirty city.... Berlin is full of albanians, ukrtanians and losers with NO MONEY ,,,its a city with no future...and just a pile of shit.
Can someone explain to me why so many women in Berlin have the same hairstyle as McGiver? I remember having so much fun of a cashier at Heinrich Heine str who looked exactly like him! Way beyond hipsters, East Berlin women paved the way of bad taste.
If you hate bikers put your hands up in the air, i have never been so afraid to walk down the street with music in my ears until i came to Berlin, the only place where you can develope agoraphobia from the terror that bikers give. Another thing, if you have a gosh darn bike why is freaking full of people with bikes in the ubahn or sbahn where you have to fly to exit from the door. Is this part of your status symbol? showing the world you have a bike? I cannot wait to abandon this pooping city
Berlin thinks it's the coolest city in Europe only because it's full of students who like to go clubbing...This city does NOT produce ANYTHING relevant in terms of pop culture...mostly because it's filled with students and losers. This is not a real city.