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As many posts are there are here about people being lost in berlin in their 30s or 40s, I am so SO glad I never spent any of my 20s here. I was way more impressionable and would have gotten sucked in to this dead-end culture, trying hard to fit in with the way people do things here. That's no way to spend your youth.
as I've said previously, I've known many people who have spent their entire 20s in berlin and now are 35 or 36 and still acting like 21. This is because in Berlin you do not have the clear progression or role models for "adulting" and early, mid, late twenties, early 30s and mid 30s, are not broken down into clear, normally developmental stages.
I used to think these people were avoiding being adults, but because they moved there so long and Berlin is a time vortex, I realized they just didnt develop in the same way as the rest of us. A lot of them are still wearing clothes that went out of style the year they moved to Berlin, which I find odd. That's why its so hard to relate to them.
Hey Berliners, you could pick up the trash, pull up the weeds, and paint over the graffiti. It won't make you nazis or capitalists, I swear.
Maurice Frank at Berliner Zeitung is a freaking pussy. I would honestly like to box that female dog in real life (consentually of course). I would love to see he german face groveling for mercy.
Somehow German society teaches you to pretend that you don't want things a normal, first-world citizen has and, even more sinister, they somehow teach you that you also don't deserve those things.
This'll be my last Christmas here.
I read this site pretty often, but I have to say I don’t hate Berlin or Germans. No one deserves to be hated, because at the end of the day you still have people and things in your mind when they don’t deserve to be there. Yes, some people and things don’t even deserve our hate. Merry Christmas!
you're right, this site should be renamed "holierthanthou.de"
I don't hate Germans or even everything about Berlin, just certain aspects of this society. Aspects such as passive aggressive weirdness on anonymous forums, gaslighting people who dare question what goes on here and the denial that anything at all here is ever shit. Merry Christmas.
I do hate Germans and Berliners. I probably don't hate all of them. I don't think it's genetics that makes them all so obnoxious, but German culture definitely does. There are no redeeming qualities I can find in typical German behavior.
If you are a defender of Germany then how the hell did you end up posting here on Christmas Day? Seriously shat led you to search for whatever keywords brought you here?
Guys, you missed the point. I’m the OP and I don’t like Germans at all. I don’t come from this country, thank Heavens. I’m not holier then anyone, either, only God is. But I just don’t hate them, I pity them. Pity because they grew up in this sick society and the correcting culture. Pity because they’re so broken they don’t realize they’re by no means a superior country. Pity for their misery. that’s all
merry christmas to everyone except germans
They don't realise that they don't own shittt in this country. Home ownership 52% thats phucked and they somehow seem proud about the fact that they rent homes here. I thought about this recently, is it just me that finds it extremly unnatural to be forced to live with complete strangers in WGs just because you can't afford a own flat here? No wonder people are so broken here, to me it's a human right to somehow get your own home with real FAMILY OR ALONE to then start your life from there, that's the basics if you don't have a home that is really yours you can't start a decent life because you in constant fear of losing it or because you live with strangers that you eventually won't like in Germany that's a constant stress many people have here. Alot of Germans move into WGs because they don't have families and or have a broken relationship to their familys they don't have any backup.
lmao....to the last two comments. If you are above the age of 30 you will want to think about sometime buying property. This is because even if your dreams fail you will have a stable place to live so that when you age and have to go into forced retirement, you wont be left homeless. I am an artist and even I left berlin, because I need to be able to work a side job, such as bartending, to make money to buy a home. Bartneder in berlin think 60 euro is a good night for 12 hour shift. first of all, working a 12 hour bar shift is totally ridiculous. I would never work more than 6-8 hours on a weekend and each night pull home minimum 300 in tips in north america plus my hourly wage. Sorry I dont feel like scraping by and rotting in berlin. there is no point. you do the math.
and to continue my above post - because I feel like ranting right now on here - do these germans and people here not realize that while they are in their 30,40s this is NOT the time to scrape by? Ok, say you rent. Then landlords come by for a renoviction. well look at all these elderly people who are now having to deal with what is happening with that. Rents in berlin ten years ago were 1/3 or even 1/4 of the price they are now. all these old people who do not have jobs most likely, did not buy a place then. so now they are being evicted and being thrown into the streets trying to look for a flat in a housing crisis, where the rents are more than the price. they could have bought something, but no, they decided to just rent, because everyone else is doing it. they didnt save and they expected the goverment to take care of them because socialism. we can see how well that worked out for them. If you own something, you can later sell it, its an investment. My aim is to find another city in europe where I want to live, where property isnt so expensive. I am personally looking at Athens. This is because I could drop 250,000 euro and buy a 5 bedroom home in the city in an upscale area. I could make one room a studio, I could have one room for if I decide to have kids and make another office. You cant even find a 2bdrm in berlin for that these days. Say I wanted a 1bdrm in athens. I could buy that for 20,000 at the lowest. I could have that money in the next year easily if it wasnt for corona. so there you have it.
and before anyone comes for me talking about the greek economic crisis, lets just remember why people came to berlin in the first place. because it was a total idiot and landlords were giving away free rent because no one wanted to live there. and now look at it. This is how gentrification starts but whatever, I predict Athens will not be a bad investment, because the properties are so cheap due to the crisis. And thats exactly why I want to buy something there, even if I dont live in it, because I could sell it in ten years
and one more thing LOL..... the stupidest people....are the old people...who rent on the 7th floor....because these flats have no lifts.... yeah great future plan.... how do you walk these stairs as you get older....everything in berlin is third world..... the greeks have economic issues but at least they have lifts, air conditioning, good food, warm culture
Berliners dont realize that all they have is berlin. They cant afford anything else. so they are left with berlin. but there are much more appealing cities in europe to stay for long term. I am also considering visiting places I have not been like croatia and portugal. Maybe budapest. I hear krakow is nice, warsaw. This is just the stupidest thing, people being so obsessed with berlin, as if there are no other options around the EU, where you can pay way cheaper and actually OWN a home, if you just go to north america and work for a couple of years.
anyway thanks for listening to my rant on basic economics, which the idiots in berlin i do not expect to comprehend, as they cannot think further than the next weekend, feierabend or whatever, which is why they are stuck in their cycle, as they have no plan.
and PS I am sure someone will come after me saying how much "capitalism sucks" yeah ok. I always hated capitalism until I lived under near socialism in berlin. The government controlling every aspect of your life or being forced to tone down your dreams to satisfy the lowest common denominator is ridiculous. I now appreciate the fact that I can work in a bar and make that many tips, or hey, how about NOT WORKING FOR EXPOSURE. berlin is a shitt hole
I told these Berliner morons 12 years ago to buy an apartment now because in the future when Berlin fills up again they won't be able to afford one, back then they were going for €20,000.00, yes 20, not 200. They all said to me, "Oh vee are Germans, vee do not buy, we rent". Give up on them, trust me, they will never change anything, their teutonic origins will always keep them trapped by their suspicious and untrusting nature. Ironically, they are the most untrustworthy of all.
What's the logical conclusion of saying that renting is too stressful and that owning things is bad? It's the 80 year old granny who has to move from the apartment she has occupied for 40 years because of rent hikes. It's being content with having zero power over your own home except being able to stand at Alexanderplatz once a year with a bullhorn yelling "Please don't raise my rent". And, most obviously, it's chosing to say "My net worth is zero after living here 35 years" while you could have a net worth of 300K Eur with the same exact living costs if you'd been smart enough to buy.
I honestly cannot understand how Germany convinced people here that renting is the prudent decision.
www.quora.com/Why-is-Berlin-such-a-run-down-and-disgusting-city
First comment of course begins with a German gaslight.
"Berlin is extraordinary in as much as it was nearly destroyed by war less than 75 years ago. Was split in two during the cold war until 1991 (less than 28 years ago and had to absorb all the East Berliners to date. Now, it extends a helping hand to refugees from war-torn countries because it still feels the need to show the world it has changed (no thanks to the UK that keeps on banging on about WWII). So, I guess that means they have an excuse. Don’t they?"
I think the author might actually be retarded or schizophrenic.
Imagine if someone in USA believed everything they saw on tv was true. Imagine if they also paid their tax dollars towards state controlled media. And still thought it was the truth. These people are robots bro
A little bit of Xmas cheer:
www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/12/19/sarah-palin-julian-assange-deserves-a-pardon/
Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin added her voice to the growing chorus of conservative figures favoring a pardon of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.
“I made a mistake some years ago, not supporting Julian Assange — thinking that he was a bad guy… I’ve learned a lot since then,” said Palin in a video provided exclusively to the Gateway Pundit.
How is Germany considered a developed country?
Germans should be not allowed to going anywhere else outside their country
I now had an idea how to respond to the aggressive stares from Turks and Arabs... show them the finger! There is always a possibility these people do not understand common gestures since they seem to live in their own world, but it absolutely doesn't matter! I know what it means, that's all that counts.
If you're mentally stable with healthy self esteem Germans will try to beat you down until you're on their low level and only then they start liking you a little ... Don't date any Germans they will try to crush you mentally and try to keep you there.
They are frustrated and miserable.
They don’t even want to have it other way.
Being in a relationship with these people means compromising your happiness and accepting things that put you down.
And they never apologise for it.
I literally said to one partner that I am not OK with him doing certain things, but as I cannot control anyone I cannot impose chance, only to know if that happens again and decide for myself if that is something I tolerate or not.
Ofcourse, that did not mean poop and kept doing the things hurt me... So when I decided to broke it off and said that this is lying and playing me behind my back, I got „I disagree with that“...
How can they even disagree on hurting someone‘s feelings?
That’s gaslight.
I am OK, calm and collected after this one.
It’s beautiful to see how dignifying is when you cannot be bothered.
Learned my lesson
To the person right above me. Wow. I thought you were describing my relationship with a German woman. The amount of gaslighting and ignoring my boundaries was insane! She hurt me so much mentally in just a matter of months, that I slammed her door loudly and gtfo. I’m so happy I did