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Trying to get a German to think outside the box is like trying to teach a fish how to climb a tree.
And that's the trap. You think that thinking in further will help to get you out but really all it does is make you more like them and blind to the fact that everything about the way they think is artificial, überlogical and restricted. Integrating into this thought system is dangerous because if you go too far you may never be able to think freely again. Don't let them indoctrinate you with their b*llshit Ordnung and rules.
24 hours dealing with things from Berlin from abroad: package returned to Berlin that was sent to me (that was very important) with no marked reason. Landlord writing that I owed them 200 even tho they owe me 200. Subletter bailing.
I am so glad I am no longer there
How many years passed before you realized Berlin was a sham?
A year. Here's a breakdown of my experience based on time when I realised each item sucks.
- Architecture: -5 mins (from the plane, everything looks like lego with mould)
- People 55 mins (taxi driver was a douche)
- Service 1:30 hours (A bar that only accept cash. Soon realised this was all of them)
- Accommodation 2:30 hours (cheap but awful)
- Food 1 day (lack of Michelin stars is a dead give away)
- Bureaucracy 1 week (burgerampt say no more)
- neighbours 1 week (enjoy the Hartv IV and bad pilsner you losers)
- Clubbing 1 month (I get it Getrude, you work a poop job and dressing like a Robot and feckin strangers is your release)
- People 2 months (at first I thought I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. I was wrong, they're Turing machines)
- Shagging 2 months (just terrible. German porn sucks so you get the idea)
- Jobs (poor but sexy folks)
- People's flakiness 1 year (People don't stay in Berlin, it is a layover)
Only positive for Berlin is how easy it is to get around on a bicycle and how quickly you can escape to the countryside.
Hi, OP here. On my first visit to Berlin I remember writing my ex “germans hate me” (yes, a wonderful ex I left -to move to Berlin, how stupid I was. Not to mention a six figure salary and a sick apartment at a good price. Anyway, I’m home now).
I noticed the rudeness and I noticed the dirtiness and I remember when I went to berghain I thought “it’s just a club”.
Other than that I did get the distinct sense “it seems challenging” although I didn’t know why... I had little idea how extremely pointlessly challenging it would get.
Fast forward a year and I was having the time of my life... fast forward two years and I’m back in my home country thanking coronavirus for me to come to these conclusions on how terrible the place was for me over the last year. Come to this forum and really It was what made me realize all the things only I thought.
I don’t know how people spend a decade in that city. They must be broken. People start to get a warped sense of what’s wrong or right. I pity them. Some very dark things happened a year in that I witnessed around me or saw people change in bad ways but it’s almost like it didn’t click exactly how broken it is until enough weird poop happened and then I read Berlin hater
Wait let me add some more key points. German fashion sense and interior design was a BIG clue for me something was wrong. I am very visual and some of the aesthetic literally made me want to barf. That distinct green colour they use and their camping gear fashion, socks and sandals, massive pants for 20 women that make them look like they are dressing as if 60!
Then the interior design... again; the gross green colour... gross bedding (no top sheet? Just a pooping duvet) or blankets.... nasty doors and paint in the hallway... even when I went to the Charlotte burg castle it isn’t feeling like a castle...
I saw some nice old flats in places but this place reminds me of Palermo, at one time it was great and fancy, now the rest of it is run down... and basically you can only have the fancy if you are a German with a good income.. which is few and far between.
I regret not going to Paris or London.
Foreigner here, the first time I arrived Germany and chose Berlin to do my master study. I lived in Berlin for 4 years, and I was so depressed that I have to see Psychiatrist. I grow paranoia to my own post box. My OCD get worse.
I had a thought that life is not worth it anymore, if something happened to me (knock knock on the wood) I would not mind. Sometime even had a serious thought to jump to Ubahn rail.
I do not know what the source of my depression, maybe because I was surrounded by ugly property, ugly people.
Matter got worse when I lost my job and I need to find new wohnung. I took 3 weeks off to the USA and the thought of going back to Berlin in those ugly things scares me and I cried because I didn't want to go back to Berlin (facing no future life in Berlin: get low pay job, stay in awful WG because I only able to get low payjob, the horrible dating scene). In the end I move to Münich.
I also inexplicably started having fantasies of suicide after moving to Berlin and, as you wrote, often thought about laying on train tracks. I don't know why but I suspect it may have something to do with low levels of natural lithium in the tap water and bottled water here. There are studies that show that the north east of Germany has the lowest levels in the natural water reservoirs and there's a negative correlation to levels of calcium and lye. I also suspect that living in Berlin exposes you to more ambient toxins than elsewhere. These are just guesses based on limited available data (for some reason Germany doesn't participate in many international initiates so for wide-scale studies you'll often see the all-too-common "no data availabl" for Germany). That's at least one explanation outside of the common "Berlin has dark energy". I don't think this is all a coincidence.
The city has a negative effect on people. It's Germany. I don't understand why thinking about suicide? Why not risk and just leave????
Why do you want those Nazis to win over you. Even thinking about suicide is broken up. So many people risk their life and swimm through oceans for a better life. And you are white, you are not from a third world. You have many more chances without swimming through oceans. Why thinking about suicide??
Just leave brother or sister. Just DO IT. I promise you Spain is not that way, Portugal as well, France as well anywhere. It's Germany. Too much poop going on here for people with emotional intelligence
The poster above me nailed it. I also found myself having thoughts of jumping on the ubahn rails when I had no house and no job, but I realized how lucky I was (white, German looking eu citizen) and never let negativity win over me again. That made me gain so much sympathy for immigrants from Africa, the Middle East or elsewhere. Imagine risking your life to get to Germany... If you have suicidal thoughts, please leave or eliminate them. You’re a lucky man. I’m also a lucky man. Berlin is poop
@Anonymous how do you know the OP is white? Also just being white and being from say, Hungary will not help you in France. Only Americans and Aussies think whiteness means something special worldwide.
I don’t know if OP is white, but come on. I’m where and don’t look Eastern European (I’m European enough to know that Hungary is Central Europe, but many Germans don’t share my opinion). I’m from France. If you’re white you do get treated better. My roommates aren’t white, and it’s easy to tell the difference in the way people treat you. Whiteness doesn’t mean anything special, but people do treat you better, let’s not kid ourselves. Now, “better” doesn’t mean “well”, far from it. Germans treat you like sh1t by default
People from the West (no matter what color) are treated better than East Europeans. Hungary was part of the USSR, so for Germans they will forever be East Europeans. There is nothing wrong with that. But either their parents learned to live on 40 EUR per month with food rationing.
simply put, i just need to get out of here. this place is sick
I think Germans just like to be naked. What a pathetic attempt at media coverage.
www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/27/german-doctors-pose-naked-in-protest-at-ppe-shortages
Seems so obssesd being naked.I don't think being naked is the worst thing to do but don't understand when too much obssed.I went to expensive sports gym with a swimming pool and many old people cam out naked.Barely hided by towel(the gym provide towels )I have to see these naked peoppe.I don't want to see really.
Shut the -fuck- up you dumb bitch. Every society on earth independently developed the concept of clothing and personal modesty, which you would know if you weren't retarded.Only Germans were duped into thinking this is liberation thanks to female hyper-competitiveness post-WW2. If you want to dispute this you should just kill yourself, preferably while nude in some weird FKK group so the world can see what quacks you degenerate -fucks- truly are.
You pathetic moron. Just because the sky fairy you believe in told you that it’s a sin, doesn’t mean that our bodies are bad. That’s how we are, you conservative piece of crap. If you hate your body, or that of others, you are retarded. Do you shower with a swimsuit? Pathetic moron. The naked body has nothing wrong. I’m not German but this is a fact
You really are a -fucking- retarded nerd. Modesty has nothing to do with religion you dumb bitch. Please just kill yourself already and stop trying to frame everything as leftism vs conservatism or religion vs atheism. You sound like a -goddamn- 20 year old faggot.
LOL you think OP is complaining about nudity in solitude? The problem is all these fat Jenses and Stefanies flopping their soft bits out in public when it's not appropriate. I can't even see a path from what was said and your weird interpretation. Take a breath and use your brain.
I did justify it multiple times. There’s nothing wrong with seeing someone naked. It’s just a body. We all have one, and it doesn’t always look like the ones in your average magazine or instagram profile. So what? What’s wrong with people who choose to walk around naked in a gym? Why is that inappropriate? That’s the part I don’t understand. Do you really believe that these people are naked to shock you? No, they’re naked because they feel comfortable with their bodies. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. If you don’t like it, don’t do it, and don’t look at it. It’s not a crime to be naked in Germany, and I’m happy about that
Legal age of sexual consent is 14 and no restrictions against some old 50 year old diddling children. Almost non-existent punishment for people who abuse sexually abuse children. German parents typically see no issues with e.g. their 13 year old daughter dating a 20 year old man. Long and dark history of sexual abuse in Catholic schools in Germany not to mention the systemic sexualisation of children in a lot of Green Party-run Kindergartens in Germany (sounds like a conspiracy theory I know but the Green Party here has a long history of paedophilia - de.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A4dophilie-Debatte_(B%C3%BCndnis_90/Die_Gr%C3%BCnen). Weird government-sanctioned and subsidized literature like a book called Körper, Liebe, Doktorspiele that recommended for German fathers to stroke their daughters' vaginas (again, I know this sounds like a conspiracy theory but you can plenty of new articles on google and even a pdf of the book itself - oh yeah and this was in the late 2000's!). One could continue with this forever.
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All you morons who are still in Berlin, you deserve your fate, get the f out now www.bz-berlin.de/berlin/friedrichshain-kreuzberg/bei-dealer-kontrolle-am-goerlitzer-park-menschenmenge-gegen-polizisten-aufgestachelt
First things first: you are the moron!
2. Not ya fuccking business what "we" do!
3. Shut the fornicate up and start with yourself. If you're not in Berlin anymore and still posting here, then you are literally the moron of morons.
4. What's your problem? The article is hella funny
What freaks me out the most is the 50-60 y/o DDR women with red, punk haircuts.
Can someone explain why the cops in Berlin are afraid of the AntiFa lefty things, I know they are demented and creepy, but why don't the cops use the Riot Act against them.
German 'efficiency' what a myth, one perfect example is the 'new' BER airport :o)))))
I’m sick of this illusion of Berlin. The only people that have any money to buy these fashions are Germans. Please explain to me one person you know of with money in Berlin who isn’t German and works full time in Germany. The only foreigners I know with money don’t live in the city full time. Unless they have rich parents paying for their party lifestyle. Everyone else is on welfare. What a scam...it’s not like I don’t want to work for my money, I do. I have never been on welfare. But I used to make money and Berlin ruined me. I’m so angry right now because of it. There are no equal opportunities in that city.
I earn't around €150k a year. The problem with earning this money is 90% of the population thought I was directly causing inequality or according to some philistines I was stealing it from poorer people.
I mainly left Berlin because it's full of mediocre people who were triggered by others having nicer things than them. No ambition, no real skills and a government which funds useless degrees.
& it’s hillarious Berlin even has to brand itself, no other major cities have to try so hard to get people to come there and. No other citizens of any major cultural centres go on and on about how fantastic it is... most people who live in New York will be like , yeah it’s alright
Has anyone noticed how one of the first questions Germans ask you when they meet you is "where are you from?"
That question will decide their further treatment of you.
It's in the expression of it. Where are you from? (interest), completely different thing to, Where are you from?(judgemental). There is also, Where are you from? just saying something, which can be really bad. I remember someone saying "I'm just trying to make smalltalk" He had a pill, ecstasy, sounded so innocent. He was chatting up the taxi guy who drove us back. He just doesn't comprehend the meaning of respect, the signs others give. The driver, while still friendly, addressed this random talking. He just tried to make smalltalk, sounded so loveable and lost. It's bad because things get low, so often dynamic gets out of hand. In theory it's not bad also, it's how young people interact, they just able to catch each other. At the same time it's not unfree to be serious when it is.
"I want my life back"
Germans protest lockdown: news.trust.org/item/20200425163619-c61i9
These people are nuts. While I do agree that it suits governments because they can seize power using fear, I don’t question the fact that the virus can spread so easily - I know quite a few people who have the virus. These people will get sick as well.
That's funny, I know no one who has the virus and neither do the other 30 people I've asked. This virus is going to make huge profits for big corporations it will lead to higher taxes and more bullying powers for the government.
Ultra SJW Bill Gates and the Chinese are as close as thieves, they are also in bed with Soros, ouch, what a thought.
I'm astonished at how easily people are led, like lambs to the slaughter. Were Germans never taught the story of the Emperor's New Clothes.
"That's funny, I know no one who has the virus and neither do the other 30 people I've asked."
Look at the graph for Berlin here: www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/
Excess mortality is actually down in Berlin. It's up significantly for some other countries, but for Sweden it's barely up at all despite mostly normal business as usual. I don't know what to think of any of this anymore. In fact, even attempting to make sense of everything we're being told, which often changes daily, is exhausting because it isn't consistent. If Germany and Austria are so proficient at preventing covid deaths then why aren't they advising the world on effective treatment? As far as I know they aren't even doing any new clinical trials for medicines/other treatment.
I should have left Berlin when I heard that the most 'famous' person in Berlin is the freak on the door of BergHain with the tattooed face. He'd better not lose that job as the front man for a club of degenerates because he'll never get work elsewhere, except as a bouncer at a Berlin tattoo parlour. What type of moron covers their face with tattoos. .
I should have left Berlin once I noticed that in order to fit in, you've got to have at least a tattoo or a piercing.
Drink Yerba Mate, listen to sh*tty German rap or bands nobody cares about, be a single mother or a cuckold in an open relationship, vote for left-wing governments while avoiding contact with foreigners, do drugs, take a shower only ever once a week, sport "refugees welcome" t-shirts while not having any foreign friends, be a vegan and live on welfare because having a job is being a Nazi.
Only then will you fit in.
Even Sierra Leone looks pretty when the son is shining. Berlin looks uglier than on cloudy days. With son you can clearly see the dirty unhappy people and buildings. lol
I am from the UK and having lived here several years I was always wondering why I clashed with Germans. I realised I can't undo what I have been brought up and learnt to possess:
Here is a list of qualities most (98%) Germans/Berliners do not have:
Inference, hinting, the art of seduction, nuance, irony, self-deprecation, being considerate, spontaneity, sensitivity, empathy, selflessness.
When we were kids we were taught by adults the above qualities.
An italian once said to me Germans are like children. Now I know what he meant. They are like the lost boys in Peter Pan. Yet these 'kids' have bittnerness and jealousy. Berlin ain't never never land!
What you wrote is exactly what I thought after having sevra realtionship with German guys.Of course I am not expecting he sacrifice his life or everything for me.But you know what it is...I leave Berlin.This is my last month here.I think it takes time to get recovered but glad that I could leave before it is too late.Become one of German is the scariest.thing.