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I have lived in 3 different cities in Germany. This means, I had to rent 3 different flats.
Each flat I rented, was dirty beyond acceptable level.
All 3 previous renters were German. I had to do 3 days intensive cleaning in each flat. I am not talking about general cleaning when you rent new flat. It was way beyond that... Inside of the oven, bathroom, walls and floor. They were all looking like never cleaned in years...
Do you have similar experiences ?
I've lived with people from many different countries, some kept the place clean others not, regardless of nationality. However, personal hygiene seems to be almost non-existent with Germans, they are dirty animals. And they do change their sheets max. once a month, towels as well.
and what's with public bathrooms here? I remember the first time I visited and used a bathroom at Tegel airport and good God it smells like there is no ventilation and as if they have never cleaned anything in there since the airport opened. The floor and toilet and everything LOOKED clean but the smell - it was worse than any other bathroom I have ever seen.
And they don’t mount the shower head on the wall or if they do it sprays cross the tub? What idiots! You are supposed to mount the shower head at the foot of the tub not spraying horizontally over the floor. Or maybe you’re just supposed to sit there and hose yourself down like an animal. I remember going into a flat where the woman hadn’t mounted the shower head. In FOurteen years.
Im in a hospital in Brandenburg, had a surgery yesterday. About two or three years ago I was in a hospital in Berlin and it was a nightmare. The personal here is so friendly. Im impressed. Berlin sucks big time. Just go there as a tourist. Stay no longer. Its a trap!
Im an autistic German. I like to stare at people . We are germans sind the best and smartest people in the world , amerikans and English are just jeolus of us. :D But we lost 2 world krieg aua
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I am very glad that can finally talk about our group therapy here without being rasict or fuckedd up and behave like the people we hate: the Germans.
Keep them coming my brothers and sisters. And don't forget. All the therapy means nothing without having a exit plan.
Never forget the exit plan
Good luck
It’s been 1.5 months since I left Berlin and the cognitive dissonance is real. I still think about wtf about Berlin EVERY DAY. How can I move on from obsessing over this place? Why do I keep having this weird cognitive dissonance ?
Like I keep obsessing over how I could not have seen how toxic it was for my future until I left... but I also just can’t move on from it completely. It’s really bad no wonder people get addicted to it! I want to reflect back On the good time’s but I know they were all bullshit... it’s like some strange void that just drains
Why are germans so obsessed with that specific puke green colour. Is it “bio”?
Easy proof that Germans are absolutely retarded fuckers: when you use capslock on a German keyboard it also capslocks the numbers. What a bunch of dumb assholes.
Migrant Fights with a Berlin Cop :)
youtu.be/UERj_joKYyA
I like in all these forum prospective expats are like “is 1500 a good salary for Berlin?” And some RANDOM germans (why would they even be searching this shit) have to chime in and say “oh yes you can live off that” yeah live off of it at the bare minimum ok Hans you are broke and have nothing to compare it to
You can live off it if you choose to live in a pooping WG somewhere in east Berlin with ten more people, and go to the super market once a month, and of course never travel (who needs that anyway Berlin is the best). What the bloody hell are these stupid germans thinking?!?!
Berlin is wage dumping capital of Germany and Western Eurooe. People, especially from eastern Europe and the Balkans think 1500 (gross) is a lot of money. I interviewed with a company whose head of HR was from a country where the average monthly salary is 400 EUR. I asked for a reasonable mid 5 figure salary and the person immediately realized they were being paid peanuts. Berlin companies never grow and generally implode because if you pay peanuts, you get monkies.
“Berlin is a place where we can be free “ “Berlin is a place where we can be ourselves”
Nah man that’s like New York where actual exchange of ideas happens. Berlin is a prison, but hey just put a bunch of drugs and parties in there and some hype so that you’re too broken up to remember where you came from
Trying to get a German to think outside the box is like trying to teach a fish how to climb a tree.
And that's the trap. You think that thinking in further will help to get you out but really all it does is make you more like them and blind to the fact that everything about the way they think is artificial, überlogical and restricted. Integrating into this thought system is dangerous because if you go too far you may never be able to think freely again. Don't let them indoctrinate you with their b*llshit Ordnung and rules.
24 hours dealing with things from Berlin from abroad: package returned to Berlin that was sent to me (that was very important) with no marked reason. Landlord writing that I owed them 200 even tho they owe me 200. Subletter bailing.
I am so glad I am no longer there
How many years passed before you realized Berlin was a sham?
A year. Here's a breakdown of my experience based on time when I realised each item sucks.
- Architecture: -5 mins (from the plane, everything looks like lego with mould)
- People 55 mins (taxi driver was a douche)
- Service 1:30 hours (A bar that only accept cash. Soon realised this was all of them)
- Accommodation 2:30 hours (cheap but awful)
- Food 1 day (lack of Michelin stars is a dead give away)
- Bureaucracy 1 week (burgerampt say no more)
- neighbours 1 week (enjoy the Hartv IV and bad pilsner you losers)
- Clubbing 1 month (I get it Getrude, you work a poop job and dressing like a Robot and feckin strangers is your release)
- People 2 months (at first I thought I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. I was wrong, they're Turing machines)
- Shagging 2 months (just terrible. German porn sucks so you get the idea)
- Jobs (poor but sexy folks)
- People's flakiness 1 year (People don't stay in Berlin, it is a layover)
Only positive for Berlin is how easy it is to get around on a bicycle and how quickly you can escape to the countryside.
Hi, OP here. On my first visit to Berlin I remember writing my ex “germans hate me” (yes, a wonderful ex I left -to move to Berlin, how stupid I was. Not to mention a six figure salary and a sick apartment at a good price. Anyway, I’m home now).
I noticed the rudeness and I noticed the dirtiness and I remember when I went to berghain I thought “it’s just a club”.
Other than that I did get the distinct sense “it seems challenging” although I didn’t know why... I had little idea how extremely pointlessly challenging it would get.
Fast forward a year and I was having the time of my life... fast forward two years and I’m back in my home country thanking coronavirus for me to come to these conclusions on how terrible the place was for me over the last year. Come to this forum and really It was what made me realize all the things only I thought.
I don’t know how people spend a decade in that city. They must be broken. People start to get a warped sense of what’s wrong or right. I pity them. Some very dark things happened a year in that I witnessed around me or saw people change in bad ways but it’s almost like it didn’t click exactly how broken it is until enough weird poop happened and then I read Berlin hater
Wait let me add some more key points. German fashion sense and interior design was a BIG clue for me something was wrong. I am very visual and some of the aesthetic literally made me want to barf. That distinct green colour they use and their camping gear fashion, socks and sandals, massive pants for 20 women that make them look like they are dressing as if 60!
Then the interior design... again; the gross green colour... gross bedding (no top sheet? Just a pooping duvet) or blankets.... nasty doors and paint in the hallway... even when I went to the Charlotte burg castle it isn’t feeling like a castle...
I saw some nice old flats in places but this place reminds me of Palermo, at one time it was great and fancy, now the rest of it is run down... and basically you can only have the fancy if you are a German with a good income.. which is few and far between.
I regret not going to Paris or London.
Foreigner here, the first time I arrived Germany and chose Berlin to do my master study. I lived in Berlin for 4 years, and I was so depressed that I have to see Psychiatrist. I grow paranoia to my own post box. My OCD get worse.
I had a thought that life is not worth it anymore, if something happened to me (knock knock on the wood) I would not mind. Sometime even had a serious thought to jump to Ubahn rail.
I do not know what the source of my depression, maybe because I was surrounded by ugly property, ugly people.
Matter got worse when I lost my job and I need to find new wohnung. I took 3 weeks off to the USA and the thought of going back to Berlin in those ugly things scares me and I cried because I didn't want to go back to Berlin (facing no future life in Berlin: get low pay job, stay in awful WG because I only able to get low payjob, the horrible dating scene). In the end I move to Münich.
I also inexplicably started having fantasies of suicide after moving to Berlin and, as you wrote, often thought about laying on train tracks. I don't know why but I suspect it may have something to do with low levels of natural lithium in the tap water and bottled water here. There are studies that show that the north east of Germany has the lowest levels in the natural water reservoirs and there's a negative correlation to levels of calcium and lye. I also suspect that living in Berlin exposes you to more ambient toxins than elsewhere. These are just guesses based on limited available data (for some reason Germany doesn't participate in many international initiates so for wide-scale studies you'll often see the all-too-common "no data availabl" for Germany). That's at least one explanation outside of the common "Berlin has dark energy". I don't think this is all a coincidence.
The city has a negative effect on people. It's Germany. I don't understand why thinking about suicide? Why not risk and just leave????
Why do you want those Nazis to win over you. Even thinking about suicide is broken up. So many people risk their life and swimm through oceans for a better life. And you are white, you are not from a third world. You have many more chances without swimming through oceans. Why thinking about suicide??
Just leave brother or sister. Just DO IT. I promise you Spain is not that way, Portugal as well, France as well anywhere. It's Germany. Too much poop going on here for people with emotional intelligence
The poster above me nailed it. I also found myself having thoughts of jumping on the ubahn rails when I had no house and no job, but I realized how lucky I was (white, German looking eu citizen) and never let negativity win over me again. That made me gain so much sympathy for immigrants from Africa, the Middle East or elsewhere. Imagine risking your life to get to Germany... If you have suicidal thoughts, please leave or eliminate them. You’re a lucky man. I’m also a lucky man. Berlin is poop
@Anonymous how do you know the OP is white? Also just being white and being from say, Hungary will not help you in France. Only Americans and Aussies think whiteness means something special worldwide.
I don’t know if OP is white, but come on. I’m where and don’t look Eastern European (I’m European enough to know that Hungary is Central Europe, but many Germans don’t share my opinion). I’m from France. If you’re white you do get treated better. My roommates aren’t white, and it’s easy to tell the difference in the way people treat you. Whiteness doesn’t mean anything special, but people do treat you better, let’s not kid ourselves. Now, “better” doesn’t mean “well”, far from it. Germans treat you like sh1t by default
People from the West (no matter what color) are treated better than East Europeans. Hungary was part of the USSR, so for Germans they will forever be East Europeans. There is nothing wrong with that. But either their parents learned to live on 40 EUR per month with food rationing.
simply put, i just need to get out of here. this place is sick