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There are plenty of reasons to despise this filth ridden city. What bothers you most?

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  Anonymous wrote:

It was mediocre at best - in some places, like West Berlin. Now even the state itself horribly fails! If you need a paper from the state you have to first play lotto with their online system to get an appointment. When I first came here, I was told so much about how nice it is, how things work nicely and that their bureaucracy is tolerable. Almost 5 years later, I can regrettably say, Berlin sucks big time! Nothing works, and by the looks of it, change ain't gonna happen (except for the rents, they'll just keep getting higher). Which reminds me, like, seriously, immobilien agencies treat you like crap, building management is only worse (actually it's shameful), and the rents are extreme! They seriously expect you to pay 700-800 euro ++ for a idiot with no sun, in a pooping area that stinks miles away. And now that I mentioned stinkiness... wtf do the garbage trucks collect trash during launch time? Who the f*ck runs this city? Did he even finish elementary school or something? They say and they say so much, but to work in Berlin, from the looks of it, the only viable solution is to live in Brandenburg! Which of course you can't really do (unless you have a car) since with the first snow or heavy rain, SBAN starts looking paralyzed and sorry for saying that but using the bus and taking 1h on top to get home is not something you can use as an excuse for being totally destroyed the next day at work.

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  Anonymous wrote:

Please, don't forget about the piss. Piss everywhere.

For a whiff, just go on to the kulturbraueri near Schonhauser Str. It's a food market on the weekends. Just a normal wee food market.

ZING! If you try to enter it through the eastern gate that looks out onto Danziger Str. you will be overcome by the smell of stale piss. Same story every single darn weekend.

I have never experienced this anywhere. Are you spending a day at the park? Well, enjoy bathing in the site of men's penises or women's bottoms when they just take a piss anywhere they please. Oh, they were standing by a bush so it's ok to piss. Or by a car in a parking lot.

Why don't other places have this problem? Why don't places like Tokyo, NYC, or Mexico City, places that are packed with humans that you can't stretch your hands, have this issue? You'd think that with so many bladders, they'd be drowning in piss.

But they don't. Maybe because it's unacceptable in their respective cultures to piss where you live? On the street that you walk to work every morning. Or in the park that you spend time with your kids.

What the flying fornicate is wrong with these people?

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  Anonymous wrote:

Piss and shite everywhere, that oughta be Berlin's motto. I no longer live in Berlin but I had to return to Europe to Prague specifically and what a contrast.You can also say that Prague is poor but sexy but they mean it. it's not even overpriced there, I could afford to stay there for some time without having to pay a small fortune. Needless to say, people there are much much nicer.

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  Anonymous wrote:

Oh the piss... oh dear!! I've witnessed the unimaginable (in Berlin). Drunk guy from Durum shop wanted to pee. It just came natural to him instead of going to the toilette he ventured to the garages of the building next to it and started peeing there! It's no miracle that many of my connections (highly educated and skilled professionals from distant lands) after 2-4 years are all planning on leaving as soon as possible (that includes me of course)!

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  Anonymous wrote:

I spent the better part of ten years in Berlin. It was never my choice to go but as My girlfriend of the time was from there I followed here need to return. A bit reluctantly as I had a job offer elsewhere but I went and decided to make the best of it.
I was known to all my friends as an insanely optimistic and positive person. I made friends easily and was always gathering positive groups around me.
My Child was born on a cold winter morning in Berlin after our first year there and although I was already seeing the signs, I felt Berlin was like any of the other twenty places I had lived around the world and my positive attitude would win it over in the end.
6 years on after a split and misery at the hands of a relentlessly evil witch of an ex and struggling to achieve even the smallest gains I began to feel negative more often than positive.
I lasted another 3 years and I was beginning to see that people regarded me as a pessimistic and moody person.
It wasn't until I went to see my Doctor on a routine visit (an Expat) and was complaining about the latest set of troubles I was experiencing that she looked me in the eye and said, "Leave Berlin, you will never be happy here and your health is declining because of it."
It took another year of starting and stopping, worry about abandoning my child and fears of costs etc but I finally left.
It has been two years, I am again positive, I have friends, people regard me as an optimist and I talk to random strangers on the street without fear of repercussion. I have not been yelled at by a cyclist or motorist in those two years and I look forward to the day that I can offer a better place for my child.
Sure a lot of sh%t went wrong in my life during my Berlin years but that place softens what small joys you find and seems to exacerbate the ills.
I am still a Berlin Hater and always will be, but now it is comic memory rather than the daily grind.
I shall never return for longer than it takes to pick up my dear child and go somewhere else.
Out

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  Anonymous wrote:

I hope things will work out for you and you'll be able to take your kid somewhere nicer.
I've been in a relationship with a german, god I feel u on this one, it must have been horribly traumatic

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  Anonymous wrote:

One thing I will be eternally thankful for is that I never got anyone pregnant while in Berlin. The thought of my child growing up being raised by these people makes me break out in a cold sweat. Good luck mate and I hope things work out for you and your child.

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  Anonymous wrote:

I come from NZ and have lived here for 5 1/2 years, solely for the purpose of raising my daughter, as a solo parent. She's turning out to be creative, happy and emotionally intelligent. I'm helping her to develop the tools to deal with this culture, and the option to leave it behind if she wants to. I've taught her to speak English fluently, even how to skateboard. We'll be off to NZ as soon as she's a bit older.

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  Anonymous wrote:

Didn't expect so many new comments in summer. I have higher tolerance for Berlin's flaws in summer.
The city turns me into an alcoholic in winter. I dread the upcoming winter. I got a car now to drive to some serene lakes outside of the city to get over the crowds who come here to marvel at the "hottest" city in EU.
Enjoy the summer guys as much as you can.

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  Anonymous wrote:

This is the perfect time to warn other people, is it not? When I discovered this site around a month ago, I promised I would make at least one post a month - a way to keep the spirit up, a way to warn people save themselves a lot of pain and misery, and a way for me to let off some steam.

Indeed, summer is much more enjoyable. After that female dog of a winter, you honestly start thinking that maybe this place isn't so bad. Shame that I made myself notes during the winter because I had foreseen this exact thing happening. "DONT LET THE SUNLIGHT FOOL YOU, IT'LL BE GONE SOON ENOUGH".

Also, the summer brings on other aches that are absent in the winter. They're not as numerous as the winter woes, but they are still something special as I'm sure none of these things happen in any other civilized country.

Just last weekend I went to meet with friends at the park. We were still at that stage where we were standing in a group to the side of the sidewalk (Berliners NEVER do this, they just stop smack in the middle of the sidewalk). I observed an old man approaching from the corner of my eye, but I assured myself that we were all good - we were taking up something like 25% of the sidewalk and we hugged the side.

I was the outermost member of our group. The man proceeds to bump into my should, then *slide* his should across my back.

My friends look at me, mortified. My throat clenches up, luckily, because I'm overcome by nausea and I feel my dinner rising in my throat. I breathe deep. I count to ten.

Should I have cursed that man out? Should I have kick him in the back of his knee? What are you supposed to do at this point?

An overreaction? Do you think I'm overreacting? You wouldn't if this didn't happen to you every time you walk outside. You've got these wonderful Berliners who walk ahead, heads down, only to notice you at the last second. Or you got these groups of Berliners who take up the whole sidewalk and apparently think that you should pass them by on the road. We're talking about the young and the old, the decrepit homeless and the well-to-do latte-mamas.

At this point I just ignore these fuckers, mumble "AHN-SHOO-DEE-GHUN", and grin after shouldering them.

Btw, I hope your lake trips go well in winter. Are you getting out of Berlin at some point? I'm going to hold this winter out, but only because I'm leaving for good in early Spring.

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  Anonymous wrote:

I'm leaving the city in a few months. Even though I'm unhappy here for thousands of reasons, I find myself being anxious and freaked out about leaving.
I know the job market sucks big time, the people are...well they dont even behave like actual people BUT there are so many things to do around and activities (restaurants, gyms and so on) are still relatively cheap with great diversity. I love the fact that the city is so green, with lots of space and parks to relax.
I don't know, it seems that all the reasons that pushed me to leave have been erased off my mind.
I need your help guys, remind me what this city sucks so much.

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  Anonymous wrote:

I'm not here to tell you about the pile of crap the city is, there is an entire website here with the details. I'm here telling you to focus on the future. The thing with Berlin is that you can always come back. But almost everybody don't ever come back. Once people leave they say wow, Berlin really sucked balls and all that remains about the city are the crappy memories that slowly fade away, I'm telling you this because that happened to me. Change is always difficult, don't be discouraged. Seriously, gyms, bars, restaurants you will find literally in every other city in the world. Parks maybe not so many but there is a reason why you are here on this site cuz if you were really content with the city and life in that awful place you wouldn't be here. And if you after leaving realize that Berlin is for you then return and get your own startup selling drugs at Görlitzer Park and embrace the city, simple as that.

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  Anonymous wrote:

Thanks mate, your comment really helped. "Focus on the future", here you go, there is no future in Berlin.

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  Anonymous wrote:

Get your own startup selling drugs"" …………pmsl

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  Anonymous wrote:

Think about it...the things you like...are things of simple Leisure. Not of Growth. I wont lie, there is a certain unique atmosphere Berlin has that many cities dont, but none of that adds up to a real Adult Life does it?! I think about going back to visit often, but the same things you missed can be easily found in Beijing, Shanghai, Milan, New York, Antalya, Warsaw, Prague, Paris...and countless other more deserving cities. You'll get there. Just dont be a Berliner...PUSH FORWARD!! Best of Luck.

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  Anonymous wrote:

Youre not attracted to the City itself..just the Memories you once had and are trying to recapture. Dont get sucked into that Emotional Spiral of Despair.

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  Anonymous wrote:

It's funny. I am leaving the city in 2 weeks as well but i have decided to sublet as giving up everything here after living here so long would have been too traumatic. i am anxious too but more about what my new destination will hold.

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  Anonymous wrote:

I dont think Berlin is like these other cities mentioned. I think I would be bored in Warsaw, Antalya, Milan. Berlin's dysfunctional side makes it kind of interesting. It is just connecting with people that is so hard here and the gay scene completely sucks: quantity perhaps but no quality.

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  Anonymous wrote:

When I leave I will be faced with people in my new place saying "oh Berlin, it's so cool there" or "wish i could live there"...hmm, how to not get into such a conversation..

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  Anonymous wrote:

Oh dear I get this all the time! "wow Berlin, amazing" no honey, not amazing at all if your life purpose goes beyond taking drugs and get fuc.ked in dark rooms

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  Anonymous wrote:

Heres what happens when youve lived in more than 3 places like I have: Gay Scenes suck EVERYWHERE!!! After 6mo...ALL cities get boring. What matters is the life YOU make for yourself, not what some arbitrary municipality had before you got there, and will have after you leave. Geesh...some of you sound like whiny Germans.

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  Anonymous wrote:

Completely disagree. Environment counts for a lot. Plus gay scenes are not the same everywhere.

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  Anonymous wrote:

Environment counts for SO MUCH! Don't tell me life isn't better in cities where people actually are friendly and don't treat you like a second class citizen (like in our beloved Berlin)

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IDK loves, at some piont one must factor in Personal Accountability for ones Happiness. I made the most of Berlins environment...despite the people, still hated it, but I managed to find something to create out of it. Berlin didnt owe me "Happiness", it doesnt owe anyone frankly. On the surface, Gay Scenes arent the same, but underneath...most are. (Lived in NY, ATL, Madrid, SanDiego, Miami and Berlin) I made the most out of each for what they were worth. Thats the secret, at least mine. In sort, fornicate Berlin...what are you actually doing about it?

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  Anonymous wrote:

Well, taking the exit my friend!

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In just under a year I have regained what 7 years in Berlin took from me.That is my joy of life,sense of good will towards others health, friendships and career. I have not been abused by random strangers nor been insulted by depotic arseholes in the workplace or public servants. It is hard to leave because you have put so much work into staying.But in your heart you know it wont change. If you have managed to survive in Berlin you will do twice as well in any other city without the mountains of poop that you have to deal with in Berlin. Take the leap and leave.You will not regret it. Peace my friends.

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  Anonymous wrote:

P.S. I highly recommend the Asia-Pacific region. It wont take you long before the whole of Europe looks like a jaded old bad dream...soon to become a nightmare...again.

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P.P.S. And I thank this site for helping me in times of anguish. Many thanks.

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  Anonymous wrote:

I'm the original poster, thanks to all of you for your comments and insights!

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  Anonymous wrote:

almost had to return to berlin for a job.....luckily got a job elsewhere --- I WILL NEVER RETURN....left 2 years ago and still get flashbacks..

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  Anonymous wrote:

Went to a party at 1 of the germans home and guess what ... 20 minutes after that, they grabbed spray cans, gave one to me and went outside to spray the walls ... wtf

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  Anonymous wrote:

Lmfao...brainless activities for a brainless city

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  Anonymous wrote:

UK is becoming like Berlin.

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  Anonymous wrote:

It has always been the same as Berlin a shithole.

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  Anonymous wrote:

Lmao...so true...

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  Rad wrote:

Young, lazy, arty, job centre's mony sucker who spend that huge amount of money you paid in taxes to smoke weed or drink them pilsner.

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I feel like I could have created this website a million times over during the last six years here. I think when I leave this city, I may well pretend I never lived here, just to avoid the stunned expressions on my English mates' faces when I say, "it's not all that, really!" However, much as I agree with many of the complaints above, I have to say that the 'lazy arty job center money sucker' stereotype ain't true of the English that I've met here, nor even the Spanish, Greeks, and other EU nationals. It DOES seem to be very very true of the German youth here, who have a completely, how can I put this, alien expectation for what their lives and jobs (if you can call an internship in a hair salon a 'job') can and will amount to. One thing I will not miss here is doing shitty, minimum wage jobs as a self-employed person in 'careers' that the category self-employed was not invented for. Such as toilet cleaning and basic administrative roles. The fact is that I am stuck doing these jobs as a 'freelancer' because the Deutsch and their misty eyed brats have willingly obliged whenever the business world told them to bend over and grab their ankles. They should be PROTESTING for fuck's sake. Not just for the refugees - who do need help too - but also for themselves!! I'm starting to think that the average German would sell his great grandma for 50 bucks to any business man who said "Naya, but it's gut for ze German economy" They've sold all their kids to degrading internships in which, unsurprisingly, they do little but scowl and play on the smartphones their parents bought them. And who can blame them? Well, I can - they actually speak the language well enough to give their government what for, but instead they fornicate around on Fakebook, posting their fantasy lives on an imaginary wall in the hopes that some other airhead will 'like' it.

Does Berlin make me more disgusted with German youths, or just with young people all around? I'm not sure yet. All I can really say is that it's given me new respect for kids from the rest of austerity-ridden Europe for making a go of it in a and where they can't speak the language, and silently, cheerfully putting up with all the BS that German peers scowl and roll their eyes at when they should be doing their bloody jobs.

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  Fredo wrote:

The cool kidz trying too hard.

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  Anonymous wrote:

For all the people who've moved out of Berlin and want to re-live the hate-and-rudeness times again, I can happily recommend checking out r/Germany on reddit. On there, you'll find classics like:

- we're not racist, we just don't like brown people in our clubs.
- look at all those stupid people in greece, ireland, portugal, and now britain. If only they were as smart and efficient as we are, they wouldnt be so poor!
- look at all those stupid, fat, and loud americans! They dont have healthcare!
- look at all those stupid, dirty, uneducated slavs. I will now completely disregard all they went through under communism and just call them lazy and stupid! Oh, and yeah, half of my country had to go through something similar, but I'll just call them stupid and lazy Ossi's too!
- how DARE you ask about how to find something/do something in Germany? Any human with half a brain would know that you have to fill out this 7 page form, register an appt 2 months in advance with The Most Holy Bureaucrat, then re-file the paperwork because you used blue ink, then you must provide your: passport, ID, insurance number, insurance card, shoe size, brand of shampoo, and a blood test. Mein gott, you auslanders are so uneducated.
- HOW DARE YOU question a certain aspect of germany culture or way of doing things. You must be lobotomized to think we are not doing something most efficient, enlightened, profound, fast, quality way mankind has every imagined.
- "This tv-tax thing is pretty weird, can you expl-" YOUR COUNTRY IS FAT/BOMBED IRAQ/POOR/HAS CROOKED TEETH/etc.

Really, whenever you're having a bad day and berlinhater.de just doesn't seem to hit the spot, just go to r/Germany and you will imbued with a new sense of joy and wonder of having gotten the fornicate out of cesspool.

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  Anonymous wrote:

Revenge will be sweet now the E.U. is falling to pieces. Who has mud on their clever faces now Germany.HA!

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  Anonymous wrote:

Britain is now teeming with racist abuse after Brexit, maybe Germany is next? We kinda saw this coming from a mile away.

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  Anonymous wrote:

Little known fact about German clubs regarding point one of the classics (- we're not racist, we just don't like brown people in our clubs.) Ever wondered why no hip hop famous artists and black techno - EDM artists play in Germany anymore, or never even tried to perform there? It's because the ones that tried have been denied entrance at clubs they tried to go almost always, there is even one case where the artists were in the VIP list and the bouncer and even the police didn't let them in with the classic super rude and obnoxious German club attitude . Later, the owner of the club tried to contact the artists after the incident but them wisely never picked up the phone ever again. No names here. But these things don't go unnoticed in the music scene.

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  Anonymous wrote:

And for that matter these things dont go unnoticed in the Arts scene , financial scene , investment scene , tourism scene etc. Most of these obnoxious Berliners are about to get a hell of a wake up call.

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I know of a foreign investor and owner of some VC firms who was interested in the tech companies in the city. I only know about the last incident, the one that was the last straw, he was asked to leave the restaurant in some 5 star hotel because he was staying there for too long reading the newspaper and browsing the internet and he wasn't consuming anything, but we all know that really means. Needless to say the next morning he left the city because he had too many incidents regarding xenophobia.

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  Anonymous wrote:

Can we have a referendum to remove Berlin from ... the world?

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  Anonymous wrote:

Please, on another Note, im Glas I never had to get a visa to come to this dump- going through all that efforz to get here would make the dissapointment even worse!!

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  Franco wrote:

The whiny British Expats that are now worried they may have to actually GET REAL JOBS! lol

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  Anonymous wrote:

Lol.....no more benefits?

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  Anonymous wrote:

Agreed, they would actually have to contribute instead of milking that diseased cow of a City.

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  Anonymous wrote:

Outside of IT they will struggle, as does everyone elsebhere

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  Anonymous wrote:

Most of the posts are relating to Germany as a whole, but not to Berlin especially. For God's sake, Berlin is not Germany. I am a German and a Berlin hater as well.
Berlin is unfriendly, overestimating itself.
Maybe the cause for the rudeness is that Berlin(West) has been an island for many years, attracting other losers for 40 years. Now they have the impression they are in the center of anything. That's why things don't happen here, that are normal in other German cities. Then people, that have lived for a long time under communist rules, that have never seen any foreigners for a long time. They are xenophobe (not only to people from other countries, but also to people, that come from former Western Germany). Berlin is the city, which is for me much more strange, that other cities in Western Europe), Paris, London are less strange for me, because I was socialized in Western Europe.
I am really astonished, that Berlin has such an attraction to people from other countries. Berlin is Wladiwostok or Minsk, ugly, poor, only a few steps to Siberia. So it is no wonder, that people who come here are massively disappointed.

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  Anonymous wrote:

Thanks for posting here - could you share what other places in Germany one might go that are different from Berlin?

I wanna point out that you yourself may have a pretty lopsided view of the East. If you go to Poznan, Cracov, or Lviv, all cities in deep post-commie places, you'll immediately notice that despite being incredibly poor and much closer to the big smelly russian bear, the people there... smile. There's even color in the streets despite people having very little resources to spare.

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised if you go to those places. You might also be even more filled with awe and disgust at just how bad, sad, rude, gray (despite tons of money) Berlin and other parts of Germany are (I've only been in the former Eastern Germany regions, so take this with a grain of salt).

Last but not least - people don't have high expectations - they merely expect what they'd expect from any other 1st world capitol city, and even from 2nd world capitol cities.

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  Anonymous wrote:

I traveled through Poland for two weeks and found them way more unfriendly than Germans xD Maybe I traveled though a parallel universe, who knows?

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  Anonymous wrote:

Also you should be very cautious traveling to Poland if you don't look like 99% of the males there - white, short to zero hair and ugly clothes. Depressing country!

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  Anonymous wrote:

I used to live in South Germany, and it was much much better than here. The people on the South are kind of more closed, but once they open - you can make really good friends. Just keep right distance, and you'll have a chance to build a decent and joyful relationship. In Berlin it's impossible. Nobody gives a poop about you, all "friendliness" of this place is just totally superficial. So, I'd definitely agree. Germany is very much different, and I don't like it myself when people extrapolate Berlin to entire country. Thanks God, Berlin is just Berlin...

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  Anonymous wrote:

Agreed, i moved to Germany 5 years ago and only came to Berlin because for some ridiculous reason I thought I could get more work here. Berliners are a*seholes, I was shocked because my previous experience of Germans has been wonderful. There are issues all over Germany, the expensive health insurance, the threatening vibe you get in the letters from anything from the landlord to the TV license, which is also insanely expensive. I am now sh*tting myself because I'm in Berlin and I already feel like I've made a huge mistake. It's a disgusting city. No work, horrible dirty streets, massive failures to integrate immigrants, the muslims are not interested even if you try to be friendly and treat the place like a rubbish tip. I will be looking to move on as soon as possible because if I end up poor and stuck here I am f*cked.

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  Anonymous wrote:

I used to live in the hellhole entitled Berlin before escaping 2 years ago ....I ended up in the UK 5 months ago and I am getting flashbacks to Berlin (loads of unemployed people, student economy, bums and homeless everywhere) systems that don't work.... the only difference is that British people are on the whole friendly, whereas Germans are cold rude robots....anyway I will NEVER live in UK or Berlin again - both are total dumps on their way out.... shame.

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  Anonymous wrote:

What city in the UK did you end up in?

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  Anonymous wrote:

yeah dude I hear you. I lived in the UK for work and it sincerely feels like there is no middle anymore, either you're filthy rich or poor "level: Berlin", no jobs and addicted to drugs. I might be wrong though, I don't live there anymore.

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  Anonymous wrote:

spot on dude - I have visited every city: Liverpool, London, Birmingham, Leeds,Manchester bla bla bla - its crap - so I am escaping here too....you are right - there is no middle.

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  Anonymous wrote:

I lived in Scotland and I miss it

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  Anonymous wrote:

This City is a great misfortune,it must be cursed or something.

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  Anonymous wrote:

It is, the vibes here are so low and negative.
Look at the people around, they're all under a "BE DEPRESSED AND NEVER SMILE" spell

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  Anonymous wrote:

yup - its depressing as shit.

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