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Berlin in Germany or you guys mean Berlin in the USA? not easy to gather from this site.
Should one continue to live in a place just because it is cheap?
cheap place = cheap people = cheap jobs = cheap... not inexpensive, just plain cheap. Consider disposable income... if you have 20% of your income for doing what you want to do elsewhere in the world I would rather have 20% of Munich wages than 20% of Berlin's.
You're very welcome, feel free to head on over, join the group and introduce yourself - everyone who wants to help make a better Berlin and feel less alone are welcome =O)
A new facebook group inspired by the need to create a supportive social circle for those feeling isolated & trapped in Berlin, let's help each other make life better here: www.facebook.com/groups/1021498287901007/
What was better 10 years ago? Everything! It was not so crowded, but whats more significant, the people were not such inhuman lookists, who feel themselves as the center of the universe. 10 years ago the people were more shy,but friendly, more caring about themselves and not so much about you. Iam afraid that berlin has become horrid since they made a hype of it. its the rich hipters and hipsteresses from wohle the world making it this bad. (in my opinion) these are the so cool, antisocial, inhuman, icecold people who like control so much.
Having lived here (as an "ausländer") for nearly 10 years I can honestly say that not a lot has changed at all. In my experience the local culture has always been anti-social, unfriendly and aggressive (compared to other parts of the world) and the racism & xenophobia have also been very prevalent and, of course, only worsened as more foreigners move here.
It really has been pretty sh*t for a long long time. I first came in 2001 and moved here in 2004 and I have been depressed ever since. Circumstances out of my control although my nine year old brings rays of sunshine when her c*nt of a mother lets me see her.
I wonder,where you guys come from ? What is your Nationality from the visitors of this site ? i really want to know.thx
Watch the number on newcomers rise in the next couple of weeks here as the Berlin faces drop as well as the temperatures. Its full of trapped non germans there because their friends are trapped there and too weak to go back home or womewhere else and be an individual. Afraid that if they do they will be outside of "Popular circles". Life is much more than pooping clubs and Berlin has fornicate all else to offer than that.
For a change, I'd like to mention something else: While it's not the best way to "anonymously bond with people", I am very thankful for this website. I'd spent a large portion of my life feeling completely alone with all my views and troubles within this city, but it's partially SHOCKING to see how some people seem to have experienced things which I'd thought could only happen to me. Or maybe that something was wrong with me. There is a nice German word for this, in fact, I don't think I know an English equivalent that describes my experience with this website as well as it: Seelenbalsam.
Too true! Before I discovered this site I felt utterly alone and thought I must be going crazy as I couldn't believe that I could be treated so badly on a daily basis by complete strangers for absolutely zero (logical) reason. Thank you site-creators for allowing us to share our (sadly all-too-common) experiences and feel sane again!
This site has brought me much joy I would not have otherwise had living in Berlin. It helped me to laugh at the filth and attitudes where before I would internalize it all and run through many moods of dark colour.
I moved away a couple years ago but have to return twice a year and can honestly say that the journey there still darkens my mood more and more the closer I get and the unbearable lightness of being that envelops me as I board a departing flight at Tegel or Schoenefeld (still no Berlin International funnily enough) is better than sex.
Just the city limit sign while driving does not do the same as I know only Brandenburg lies beyond. Could start a whole new hater site based on Brandenburg.
Kudos to our benefactors
Quit being proud of how 'direct' and 'straightforward' Germans are. There's a difference between being honest, mature and being an inflexible stone, who lacks social sensitivity, emotional intelligence and the ability to put oneself in others' position. Beside, why are they so convinced that being 'direct' is always, always the best strategy? It's not. Different people are different and relationships are too complex to claim there's only one best strategy to deal with the people around you. But this is the thing, you know, 'most' Germans don't and can't deal with too much complexity, uncertainty and the grey areas. It's like, they lack the light-hearted spirit that can allow you to find flexible solutions and laugh along the way. They would rather see everything governed and controlled and if there's a crack in their secure structure, they would take it upon themselves to forcefully reinforce their ideals and control others. thats why they are so freaking frustrated all the time.
This is based on my experiences at work places, dating Germans and general street encounters/strangers.
There is a huge difference between being direct and straighforward and simply being negative and rude. German society seems to have never matured enough to learn how to control their pessimistic thoughts and aggressive behaviours. Which sadly means that they find the basic politeness and pleasantries found in other cultures/countries impossible to understand and interact with.
Thank you SO much for this. My parents migrated here so I was born here, but I was born with different ideals and it definitely did a number on my childhood experiences. I've lost count of all the times I felt insulted, offended, hurt or simply disrespected, only to have people tell me "not to take it so personally" and that I was the one being "too sensitive" about it. I mean, I'll admit to being sensitive any day, but the actual problem is they make you feel like it's a bad thing. I'm sorry I actually care about the way I communicate with people? Lol.
Berlin is full of wanna be cool people who are not cool at all. They escape to Berlin in the belief they can " be themselves" because " no one cares what you look like, think like etc" sorry but you can be yourself back home too! Only reason you feel you can't is because you simply are not cool enough to do and think what you want through fear. So hang out with like minded female hygene product bags in Berlin and be cool?? HA HA you people are boring. I hate Berlin, it's ugly, grey, oppressive and full of people who don't belong there, full of ex pats who think they are cool, full of hipsters who think they are the only beings on earth, don't get me started on music, if you don't like techno doof doof or really bad metal then there is no hope. The only thing the city has going for it is cheap beer and drugs and late night bars and clubs, which are full of people with too much self importance and not enough substance to make them remotely interesting. Sorry your beer is poop too
When I lived there whenever I said something like "I will leave this place soon", "I don't like it here" or "this place is ugly" I every single time got comments like "but Berlin is the place to be" or "you're the one with the problem" and NOT even then I never replied rudely, merely a yeah right. (most of them never had seen anything else but the city btw) But now, a couple years after I left I can honestly say I am better off now. I am more productive, more independent and happier then I ever was or would have been, had I continued living in Berlin. *Drops Mic*
This city contains the most unhuman people that exist on this planet.
I fell off my bike yesterday and injured my ankle, I could not stand up because I was in pain. Even though there were tons of people around me (it happened next to a fuck:ng tram stop), nobody has asked me if I needed help, NOBODY. I struggled to stand up and called a friend on the phone to come pick me up.
Is such a lack of humanity even possible? Those sons of female dogs were looking at me and no one had the presence of mind to come help me. Unbelievable. I cannot wait to f!ck off from this hellish place, I hope one day this city gets fuck!ng destroyed because this is all it deserves.
After a soul sucking 7 years here I can honestly say I have tried absolutely everything to create a supportive social circle. Unfortunately, in my experience, most of the (friendly) foreigners in Berlin have come here to party and be "artists" for a few months until their money runs out and they return home. Sadly I have yet to meet an honest to goodness genuine "friendly" Berliner.
Throughout the years I have researched and reached out several times to both foreigner & German "groups" with very little success. It's pointless to list all of the vast & varied things I have tried throughout the years or the job opportunities that have simply paid too little to be worth even the cost of the train tickets to get there.
So why not just leave?
I am isolated and honestly have no friends or family ties for any kind of support leaving me completely on my own with a 4 year old and absolutely zero financial savings in a country that is not my own, unhappily married to an emotionally abusive local (a divorce is most certainly possible but if I try to leave the country without my husband's written, notarized permission he can (& will) have me charged with international kidnapping thanks to the archaic laws governing the Hague Convention).
If anyone is in the Köpenick area it would be awesome to lend each other a friendly smile and some moral support.
Unfortunately when you have a child and a relatively low income your choices for affordable housing in this city are very limited. We live in a 2 storey house with a small yard for the same price of a tiny apartment in P-berg. Everywhere is full of poop in Berlin and I experience the same xenophobia & rudeness in Köpenick as I did in F-hain...
Does anyone want to share their personal contact details on a public forum anywhere online? Most people don't eve use their real name when commenting on sites ("anonymous" is the popular choice here) so why would setting up a private message feature for those who want to help, support & possibly even befriend each other here be something to question & scoff at?
as a web developer I know that private messaging won't happen as it is a big investment. But I'd like to suggest an alternative to you people who want to meet irl. I lived there and I know how bad it can get there so why not meeting in real life. Why don't you make a disposable tinychat room so you can meet online first and meet irl if you decide the person you're talking to is not a neo-nazi or whatever. Then after a time create a new room for those interested and keep creating new ones in case old ones get raided or infiltrated by undesired lurkers.
This city is shit. Unfortunately, nobody has yet taken the job to eradicate it: Russians had the chance but didn't execute it. Nazis could have at least continued the war some more months so that the Americans would have dropped the bomb on Berlin instead of the Japanese. None of that happened. Hence, this parasytic, ugly idiot of mankind continues to exist. Unfortunately...
Hands down, Berlin has the ugliest women in Europe, wobbling along like a team of clumsy oxen with purple hair, nasty oily skin covered with zits (or leathery as a purse) and sagging monkey mouths (from too much booze), thick waists, vaginas that stink like roadkill, etc. Even the black and latina chicks are ugly--no hips, extreme prognathism, ashy skin, unibrows, doughy complexions, and so on. Asians? Not much better. If any of them look half-way decent they are usually arrogant and hostile beyond belief--in other words, ugly on the inside. What the fu-ck gives? Who are these people, anyway? Neanderthals? Sure looks like it.