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It does not matter the origins of these Berliners, they all seem to fulfil this nasty trait to be envious. They scan you like a hawk, passing comments and sometimes asking how much things cost. I cannot stand it when one enters your flat and immediately asks how much you pay. I feel the air turning green when I am with many of them. Like I said they do not need to be from a german family background. It was the same with whoever... as long as they are living in Berlin/berliners. I am from London, it just wasn't like that there. Of course jealousy exists everywhere, but here it is so common. They then proceed to probe you with a barrage of questions in order to analyse your job and education and decide if you deserve the things you have, or victimise themselves for their own shortcomings. They are so transparent. Yes money and status are facts of life and they may come up in discussion where relevant, or accidentally or whatever... but I feel like I have to be on my guard what I reveal. I feel like I have to justify myself. I think I have a slightly above average salary, I am not affluent, not rich or showy. My crime: being foreign!
Something warped about German logic - these idiots always have to act like they have a better life than you.
I have a "cheap" apartment because I have been in the same one for 8 years. Germans love to ask how much I pay and then say "Boaaaah I am in zee Vonungsbowgenossenshaft and I payz only 200 euroz for my 20 sq meterz apartment hahaha".
I mention vaguely how much I earn once and they say "Ooohhh vell I dont earn mutch moneey but at least I has fun at ze Arbeit and zat iz most important" while the MFer earns below the poverty level and has to get Wohngeld.
My brother came to visit recently from my hometown, some small <100k population city. German dude: "Oh zooo gut for heem zat he can visit ze big city and geet outta zat village they are zooo backwards zere" while this MF legit has social anxiety so bad that one time he is too scared to use the bathroom at a cafe we JUST left and went and pissed in the bushed instead.
True product of Berlin.
I left berlin and moved to london it was a good decision. People are polite here and mind their own business.
Yes I am trapped here... somehow Berlin traps one... we all know this Stefan, thanks. Berlin draws you in and somehow leaves you feeling there is no other place you can move to from here. It is either Berlin or the abyss. Strange, non-sensical but yes we all experience this dilemma. However, am I already in the abyss?!
Thing about Berlin is that it's shitty, BUT it makes you think that you, too, are shitty. Every job here you'll have you'll think "holy shit, this company is so fucked. management is full of idiots and no one actually works." After a year you'll think "holy shit, they've turned me into an idiot as well. i could never function in a real company in a real city." It's like dating an abuser or an alcoholic or something with a mental disorder. They pull you down to their level and ruin your confidence. Unless you're here for hedonism, the only good thing about Berlin is that you could live on 2k/month but even that's soon to be history.
Do you ever find a way to deal with their threatening attitude without getting too angry and frustrated yourself? Is there any way to handle their crap
I have commented on here before: Germans will break you ONLY if you allow them. The most effective way to handle these ogres is to, first and foremost, realize that they're complete nobodies. Therefore, one should be totally dismissive of them because they matter for nothing.
Can I just vent a second, as an American I am sick of getting comments on my habits. Yes I take showers longer than 5 minutes! I need to scrub! It is even normal to shower twice a day! If the water did not literally crunch coming out of the faucet here, I would still be showering twice a day. Yes I do a lot of laundry- I don't wear the same clothes 5 times, I like to wash them after wearing! Even wearing things twice without wash was a big adaptation for me and I won't go further than that. Yes I buy a lot of groceries- maybe I don't want to stand in the checkout EVERY. DAY. It would blow your mind to see I used to buy a month's worth in a single trip! But here I try to buy for 4-5 days at a time and I get 'tut-tuts' and comments. And lastly, work commutes suck as a rule, I get it. But fun trips, going somewhere you want to go- any travel time 2 hrs or less is just fine, anything under an hour literally does not even register, can we please not act like a 45 minute drive is a freaking trip to the north pole and we must turn back before we have to make the decision to eat the sled dogs?! Can I just live my life without constant judgy fussy comments and scoffs it is seriously stressing me out
The funniest discussion I have ever seen about not bathing was posted on LEO like 15 years ago (I linked to a comment by a German who had to link to some wiki article describing what body odor is).
dict.leo.org/forum/viewGeneraldiscussion.php
The whole thing is hilarious. It's like describing the color blue to someone who is wholly colorblind.
Germans are the most annoying and most unnerving people. Don't let them stress you out. They're nothing but a bunch of miserable toxic pissants. The best way to deal with them is to treat them as though they were invisible. In other words, ignore them completely.
I will never understand how Germans obsess over cleaning, but they themselves are dirty as hell. I have literally met Germans who don't shower daily because "it's bad for the skin". Ironically enough, these were usually the ones who looked older than they actually were.
Truly a disgusting people.
What is a water usage limit? Sounds like something you'd have in North Korea or Cuba or East Berlin.
P.S.: The water here is very bad for drying out your skin. If you have ever wondered why Germans nostly have poop hair and all falls out when they turn 30... it's 50% bad genes and 50% bad water.
Not talking about water usage limit, talking about common sense.
The more you use of a resource, the more expensive will it become later due to it being less of.
Do you want you children to pay more money for basics? Your body doesn't need to shower twice a day. Also, not showering for two days results in the body releasing oils, which clean your body. You will not die from not taking a shower.
Your culture is based on developing habits, which push you to buy more things (perfumes and what not for example), which are not essential to survival. But y'all* do it and y'all later complain that you have to overwork yourself to sustain your lifestyle (*by y'all I mean Americans with whom I've spoke in my life, not you in particular)
You still have to filter out used water to recycle it into fresh one. Water recycling process requires energy. Energy is being made from non renewable sources.
We run out of energy then we run out of clean water. (Before you mention see/ocean water, that one is too salty for hygiene purposes. De-salting that water also requires energy)
Water isn't scarce in Germany and, if it weren't for mass immigration, there would be negative population growth anyway. Filtering water is not an energy intensive process. In fact, Germans actually use so little water that additional resources are needed to clean pipes (www.zeit.de/2012/14/Wasserversorgung). Not showering daily makes you stink full stop. Pretending otherwise or pretending you're saving the world by being greasey and smelly isn't only a bad trade-off, it isn't even true. German culture is based around a lot of things much worse than using water, an overly abundant resource (most prominently living in a climate that requires heating 6 months out of the year, also excessive reliance on shipping FMCG from far off hellscapes like Bangladesh, overuse of concrete in construction, excessive air travel, ubiquitous public thermal baths and saunas/steamrooms just to name a few).
My children will pay more for basics regardless because the ECB and growing calls for all out MMT ensure inflation.
Finally, go fuckk youself retard.
"Finally, go fuckk youself retard"
Mate, it will take more than this to make me shut up.
Excessive air travel? Please, Americans treat planes like busses because USA fails to develop passenger railroad.
We use concrete and our buildings remain for centuries, all the while your wooden chopstick houses fly away in any tornado or hurricane.
Anyway, why did you fly in to Germany if you can't get used to our lifestyle? Either adapt or leave back to your wonderland built on stealing resources from the Middle East.
1. Jerry forgot to post a time to meet.
2. Just because I want to kick your ass, that doesn't mean I am losing the argument.
3. I mentioned concrete becausw it alone accounts for 8% of all CO2 emission, dumbfuck. We were talking about environmentalism, not durability.
4. U.S. home ownership rates are 50% higher than German rates. I'm sure you don't care since you're a permarenter. You will never own real estate.
5. Yeah a U.S. integrated passenger rail system is super feasible when we see how sustainable it is in Europe. Every goddamned year the railways simultaneously raise prices and beg government for even more subsidies. 3 BILLION just for the 9 Euro gimmick. LMAO
6. I'm not even OP or American, but you are definitely retarded and I don't even mean it as an insult... just an observation. An autistic shut in who cares that foreigners recognize Germany is the same shiithole it was 80 years ago. Go back to reddit you pathetic genetic deadend.
1. I gave you an address, now pick your time
2. Yes you are losing an argument, and losing your shit
3. You only need to use concrete with its CO2 footprint once and then the concrete lasts. You use wood and still some CO2 BUT you have to re-do with wood because the houses get knocked down either by nature or by just getting old after 100 years.
4. US home ownership with life-long loan
5. More people used rail when it costed cheaper, which actually resulted in more income from running trains
6. You're from antifa then
1. 7pm today, pussy.
2. You haven't even argued anything at all except "USA bad" which probably goes over well with your german cohorts, but you're a clinical retard and you know it.
3. You dumb bitch, do you not see structures on ever street being demolished right now? You think you build a concrete structure and it exists in perpetuity? You think some dumb german wants to buy a 500 year old moldy piece of shit? Not to mention the fact that wooden homes are CO2 neutral you fat piece of mettwurst eatinf bitch.
4. 30 years is lifelone you dumb cunt? Maybe for your dead grandpa. And even if it were a lifelong loan, at least you would accrue home equity unlike in Shitland here where you pay rent forever, i.e. a debt you literally will never pay off. How the hell can you be this stupid???
5. Are you retarded? "When it costed cheaper" government had to guarantee 3 billion to transport companies. This is absolutely not secret and the fact you dont know it reinforces that you are retarded or 14 years old.
6. Yeah I am antifa arguing against government waste. Hope you eventually succumb to the severe lead poisoning you're suffering from soon.
There was no nonsensical fight. Even if the antifa guy at all showed up I gave him an address to a police station XD.
I don't have the time to ride around the city to fight some randoms online, especially when they were really the ones wanting a fight.
He has some mental problems if he can't have an argument without throwing insults and punches at another person. And I don't need that poop in my life :D
In every home there's a shower available so seriously, unless you like to fornicate in the bushes like an animal, you don't need to schedule having sex. You just come to somebody's place or yours and you simply take a shower before going for it.
Or you shower on the day you are seeing somebody with whom you know you would have sex. Or if you intend to have sex on a day.
But if you shower everyday only because you think you will have sex on a day each time you shower, then there's something wrong with your urges.
Easier to just not fornicate krauts.
Considering you are sitting slouched over in your bedroom in your single mom's apartment, obsessively refreshing this page so you can reply within an hour of anyone else replying, it's probably better you don't stop replying. After death, at least you will leave some kind of trace behind (aside from your horrible stench).
I just hope that at some point you will find a peace of mind, and you will simply accept the fact that you will never change a thing by simply complaining and insulting others on this site.
Germans won't magically start showering more because you are frustrated. No real Germans even sit on this site because why the hell should they.
So just let it go mate. I forgive you
Maybe acquaintances are shallow here because we all feel we have no future in this weird neverland-city and are ashamed to talk about ourselves and how we're doing
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Have any of you found out how to socialise in this country? I am not talking about rave parties or being bekannten. I am talking about proper socialising to get know people, sharing great time together etc
German co worker today: Germans have a very unique humor not even english or americans have that kind of humor. Me: you sure? I don't think so. I find german humor doesn't even exist. He: then Google Heinz Erhardt. He is one of the best comedians in the world. Aaaalright Maximilian- i like to have a cold butt in Winter to fornicate putin- Mueller
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Born to a British father and a German mother. Grew up for the majority in London, but have spent every summer in Hessen and both studied and worked in Cologne and Frankfurt respectively.
Lets have a look. These are my humble opinions entirely. I love both countries equally.
People
Both in my opinion are warm and nice people. The older German generation is generally boorish and in my mind very pessimistic. I think this has a lot to do with the post-war generation. Germans younger than say 40 are a different kettle of fish. British people on whole are more mad and quirky. Germans are more reserved. I find Brits are more outgoing and willing to make friends with expats. Germans not so much.
UK 1 Germany 0
Food
On whole the quality of food is better and cheaper in Germany. Some of the best Italian food I’ve eaten outside of Italy is in Germany. Some of the worst has been in the UK. Germany is “grillen” and meat, mostly pork! UK is more varied in my opinion. I love Rewe buts it’s not M&S. The food in the UK is more homely, AKA Full English etc. This is tight. One a piece.
UK 2 Germany 1
Cost
The UK is extremely expensive and on whole salaries are lower than in Germany. Coupled with high rents, and costs of mortgages especially in London your monthly wage does not go very far. I’m 28 and living at home. I’m faced with either paying upwards of £700 per month for a simple room in a house-share or saving for my own mortgage. This is really unheard of for any 28 year old living in Germany. To live a life of relative luxury in the UK you need to be earning £40k and above.
UK 2 Germany 2
Education
University is practically free in Germany and from what I have seen the education is first-class. I was lucky to go to private school in the UK but on a whole I feel behind my Germany counterparts. They seem to be taught the right skills needed to thrive at work and work to their strengths. In the UK it’s “Congratulations on graduating, now good luck and bye”.
UK 2 Germany 3
Weather
Its not all doom and gloom in the UK. We tend to have gloomy weather but we don’t get unbearably hot summers. Our winters are damp and rainy but not too cold. Germany gets very hot in the summer, try 42c and very cold in the winter. On whole German weather is better.
UK 2 Germany 4
Landscape
The UK has chocolate-box villages, an amazing coast line, rugged terrains such as Scotland, moorland, lakes, rivers and beautiful fields. Germany has stunning mountains in the south, vineyards in the west, forests and lakes. The coast line is okay. Nothing on the UK’s. It’s a tie.
UK 3 Germany 5
Culture
Germany is Oktoberfest, Brothers Grimm, fairytale villages, castles and modernity. The UK is The Beatles, The Royals, High Tea, James Bond and Shakespeare. I find there is more of a wider selection of culture in the UK considering the size of the UK as a whole.
UK 4 Germany 5
Opportunities
In my opinion both countries are great for forging a career, although I strongly believe it to be easier in Germany if you speak fluent German and have a particular skill-set. I find in the UK there are a lot of very talented young people that get pigeon-holed into lower tier roles without progression. All of my friends have not really been promoted, my German friends and counterparts go through promotions. In the UK it’s more who you know than what you know.
UK 4 Germany 6
Healthcare
The UK has the NHS which is our publicly funded healthcare system. Free healthcare is offered for all. It’s however in decline and has been abused. Brexit May change this. The NHS has served my family through thick and thin. The UK is very patriotic of the NHS. The majority of working Germans have private health insurance, with a fair chunk of their salary going towards this. The healthcare offered in Germany is very good but is not always without its problems.
UK 5 Germany 7
Wages
Higher in Germany but you pay more tax, especially as was the case for me as a single man earning over €45k per year. I get paid less in the UK but after tax it’s not too far off from what I received in Germany every month.
UK 5 Germany 8
Daily life
I find Germany a very bureaucratic country and things compared to the UK are unnecessarily difficult to someone coming from the UK. If you don’t speak competent German it must be a nightmare. But once you know the lay of the land it becomes easy and the system works. The UK is much simpler. We have a great service-based economy. Everything from paying rent to transferring money is easier.
UK 6 Germany 8
I have tried to be as fair as possible and these are my own opinions and findings. I love both countries and am looking to move to Munich for a few years soon. However I was happy to return from Frankfurt to London and I would be likely to return from Munich too eventually. For me the UK is home and perhaps we can all resonate with where we were born. Both are great countries just different. Germany is perhaps better in the long run for a more fulfilling life. But then again, life is what you make out of it too.
Yes London, Barcelona, Paris, new york...
These cuties are expensive to live. You can't compare them to Berlin. BUT where do you get more out of life? Normal healthy minded people? Better salaries? Better restaurants? Better weather...u name it...
You decide... quantity or quality, healthy or sick, peace of mind hanging around with real friends or being surrounded by mentally ill people?
"To live a life of relative luxury in the UK you need to be earning £40k and above."
No offense, but why would I respect some rando's opinion when he believes 40k p.a. is a life of luxury (unless that was written like 25 years ago)? Guy obviously knows nothing.
Just here to tell you people u are not alone. And no! You are not the one who is totally fucked. Actually the opposite. You are totally fine. It's the idiot you are spending time. Yes! Spending time! Don't stay too long here and get the f. out of this place.
leaving this idiot called germany next month.