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hello, I've left Berlin. Somehow though I'm having a hard time adjusting to my new city? Can someone help me with this. I know I left Berlin and miss it but I think I just miss living in Europe (I'm back in Canada now and visually it looks very different) but I am having a hard time adjusting, its only been a few days though.
I reflected on this a bit (keep coming back here because I need to process this stuff, and I cant really talk about it with the people still in berlin ) and I think the german society breaks you a bit to understand their way as "normal" and you adapt, but its quite persistent, so you have adapted your brain to this "way"
but then you leave and none of this actually applies to your life. So yeah you are free, but didn't realize how much of your daily thinking is taken up by the "german way" they expect you to be or what the gov wants for example. Once you no longer have that then you realize how much time and energy you have wasted on it, it's really irrelevant to living your life. But it really takes up so much of your brain that you don't realize it at the time. I was saying to a friend last night that if you stay in Germany you can always blame germany for the reason your life is the way it is, just because it is such a harsh place. And I think if a lot of foreigner tried to leave (if they could even afford) they would realize they wouldn't have anything to blame for their life's problems.
Reverse cultural shock is common when you return to wherever you're from after many years in another country.
It'll pass. And all the things that you hate about Berlin will seem increasingly irrelevant to your life, and you'll begin romanticizing it. There are good and unique things about this city, but being far away try not lose sight of the fact that it is, above all, a sewer.
Berlin is the kind of city that's fun to visit and that's all. Only idiots (like me) make the mistake of moving here.
OP here - I can't tell, really. It seems to have been always changing gentrification since forever. I moved to Montreal and I have affordable rent but its cold AF...also cover charges are insanely expensive. I didnt go out last night because some mid event was like 50 at the door and I'm still getting my finances in order as I've just been here for over a week.
I'm really lucky to have the affordable rent here though and a place I could just jump to last minute directly from Berlin. Otherwise I would have been on my brohters couch in toronto probably for a month, and rent here is literally half of toronto rent prices.
Hey, I left Berlin once and came back. Now I’m jobless here and just got from my home country back to the city and I’m sad. I have the fear of not getting out of Berlin mentally somehow if you know what I mean..
wtf is wrong with you? Are your "friends" brainwashing you with their FOMO BS? I have news for you, Berlin is not in forefront of anything, not in innovation, technology, infrastructure, culture (including alternative/underground). Your friends most likely failed in cities where people appreciate talent and hard work. If you want to slack but still earn decent money while doing the bare minimum then move to Australia or something.
AUSTRALIA, are you kidding, Australia is worse than Berlin, full of woke lefty-morons.
Australia is the most politically correct country on the planet. Even more controlled by Zionist Jews than Germany. The cost of a house to rent or buy in Australia has shot through the roof. There are tent cities all over place. It's also now full of Indians and cChinese who will never fit in to a Christian based society and are making it a nightmare to 'live' in. Australia, like Berlin, is over, you missed the boat. Try a small MidWest town in the USA, where people are friendly and sincere. .
lol, sincere yanks... US is lame and if the person wants to slack then what is he gonna do there? Oligarch ruler Musk will make that dump even worse... a South Korean type of dystopia.
You've never been to Australia, the whole country is not Fitzroy, Melbourne. And Christian based society? Most aussies don't care at all about that sh!te. Chinese wont fit? Who do you think are the baristi in their 1000000 hipster cafes in Sydney. Stop writing total b0llocks.
"Australia is the most politically correct country on the planet. Even more controlled by Zionist Jews than Germany. The cost of a house to rent or buy in Australia has shot through the roof. There are tent cities all over place. It's also now full of Indians and cChinese who will never fit in to a Christian based society and are making it a nightmare to 'live' in. Australia, like Berlin, is over, you missed the boat. Try a small MidWest town in the USA, where people are friendly and sincere. . "
You do realize that Jesus was...a Jew?
Hilarious, as I've seen so many USians in Australia who claim that Australia is the most racist country on earth (in many ways it was). So would you move there now?
Honestly, it's a weird place but yet an easy place to live.. mostly. Nowhere else you can earn such high wages by doing basically phuk all. In Scandinavia you can earn a good paycheck doing basic jobs but them Nordics actually want some quality. In Australia it's pretty easy to live well of with the least amount of effort.
The conspiracy theorist(s) on this page is/are incredibly dumb, must have stopped reading books after high school. If you want to know about Australia then read The Fatal Shore by Robert Hughes. All the dark truth is there. The brutal abuse of the convicts yet them becoming genocidal towards the natives who lived well while minding their own business in some of the harshest conditions in the world for 10000 years... who btw. were NOT christian. No one adapted to their culture for some reason hehh...
Australia is alright... the Aussies can be weird but you can hang out with the Japs, Chinese, Koreans, Italians, Greek, Irish etc. they are pretty fun for the most part
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Warsaw, Prague and Budapest all have higher God per capita than Berlin and you don't have majority German or arab population.
The few countries that haven't bowed down to the EU's demand to take as many Arabs as possible have much faster grown than the countries that welcomed all Arabs, which are now experiencing stagnation, deindustrialization and an increasingly dangerous right wing backlash. Of course there are many reasons Germany can no longer compete and is just dribbling all over itself like a senile old man who doesn't even know his own name anymore, but one important trend is that fewer Arabs=fewer problems.
There are a lot of nice places in Asia, but if you're a foreigner you'll never have any real relationship with the local culture or people and won't be able to learn the language unless you're a genius polyglot. Lots of weird lonely old white guys wandering the region like alcoholic sex-tourist zombies. Completely isolated and unable to have any real connection with locals. Just yelling at some Vietnamese or Thai kid working in a burger joint because they put raw cucumbers instead of pickles on your burger. Maybe an ok option when you've got a little money saved away (good luck doing that in Germany while giving a third of your salary in Jizya to support the Arabs) and are ready to go off and spend that while drinking yourself to death.
In the magical Berlin airport built by genuises as a farewell to this country .
Worth periodically remembering that if you're making, for example, 4000 euros a month brutto, that around a 1000 of that is going to support the Burgergeld and other programs for Arab colonists who've come here and prefer not to work. It's hard to calculate exactly, but it comes out to around 700-1200 a month you pay in taxes to support them. They need housing, pocket money, insurance, pension insurance, old age care for when the Arab gets old, transport passes, pocket money, education, plus all the staff who deal with the Arabs, the buildings they live in when they first arrive here, plus multiple that for each one of their chidlren, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
What's the fuccking point of working in this country?
There's no reason to work here if you're not making 10k a month (which I suppose is really 1% territory). You'll never own a home and Germany is such a transient society you'll achieve zero legacy projects. No wealth to pass to your kids. A few memories and pictures but nothing more. And if you're even buried the sacrilegious Krauts will dig you up after 20 years to make sure no one remembers you (seriously).
If they made a simple rule like you don't get to go on state benefits for the first [choose your number] years or until you get citizenship or really any common sense approach like that it would go a long way toward improving the situation. But the Arabs don't come cheap, and if we want to get a majority of the country down on their knees praising Allah by 2050 we've got to tighten our belts now.
Will be a truly retarded situation soon when they reintroduce obligatory military service or social work (wh oh they have all but promised and this time it will be for girls as well). All the passport Germans forced into 1 year of indentured servitude, non Germans can chill. I guess it was that way until 10 years ago when they temporarily stopped military conscription, but now really all passport Germans are fucked. Why would anyone keep their kids in Germany under these rules? If I had a kid it sure as hell wouldn't be a slave for a year.
I leave Berlin tomorrow. I posted recently on here. I was able to make it out just barely before the 1st by selling stuff on eBay. I’ve lived in Berlin now twice, and both times it went the same way- I arrived, had money, then was barely able to get out in the end. Last time I left it was in the pandemic. I think the longer you stay in this society the more you “adapt” and in the end it’s possible you lose your values from the original society. I don’t know, but I feel myself seeing things before I saw were strange as normal. I guess that could be said of any culture, however I think this one is specific, because people from all over the world and doesn’t matter what country have the same complaints
I made a list of things I want to do once I get out. First thing is eat a lot of food, I am starving here, the selection is so bad and also even if you get a burger it is bad? Pizza it is bad (how?) soggy in the centre, you have to eat with knife and fork lol? Sure there are good food places but you have to actively look and then it depends on your area and also Uber eats is so bad? All the quality is so low
For self care it sucks…. I am getting older (woman) I need to be able to afford things like dye my hair, it’s turning grey…. I have encouraged other friends to also leave… because once they stay then it’s too late later to leave and then they’re gonna be like the old person at events, still broke? It’s kind of weird in Berlin the older you get its appeal gets less and less. And I hope everyone can get out while they are relatively young. I’m 38, I don’t want to turn 40 here. Even if many friends are here. I’m assuming they will all leave. But I study in England and I am sure I can find a good job.
I actually find Berlin isn't the worst place to be middle aged just because everyone is already middle aged and getting older fast. Young people are even less able to afford moving here anymore, and so it the city turns into a kind of playground for the middle aged. Not sure where else in the world it's normal for a middle aged person to be doing drugs and drinking at 4:00 in the morning. But here that's totally normal. Probably not the best thing for people in that age group, but maybe better than the isolated lonely slow death people past 40 are sent off to in a lot of other countries.
Still, congratulations on making the move away. I doubt you'll regret it.
Congratulations on getting out. Hope you can focus on relationships wherever you're going, they're all the matters. It's the cruel joke of Berlin: meet tons of people here but no one is a friend. I noticed after way too long I was just running down the clock here waiting to leave (never planned to stay here, found the city viscerally disgusting from my first visit).
I still don't understand how Germans don't see any problems with blocking the enter / exit of anything mindlessly. They also stand on the pavement and hardly move to make space for you to pass. They also sometimes stop suddenly while walking. I seriously don't get how they collevtively act in the same way.
I rent workspace in the East of the city. The building has a lift. Most of the Germans stand directly in front of the lift doors when waiting for it to arrive not realising that there might me someone in the lift who needs to exit. I asked one Woman why she did this and she replied "Why shouldn't I?"
I was feeling a bit cheeky so I said "In the interests of efficiency have you recorded how many time you have take a step a back and then another step forward when someone needs to exit the lift? You could save yourself a lot of wasted effort." She just looked at me like I was crazy. Same nonsense with the S Bahn etc. I've become a bit of an a hole as I just barge people out of the way now when they don't give me enough space to exit.
Japanese people seem.to be able to handle an overcrowded public transport system without being dicks. Come on Germany!
I hiss at them when they do that. They don't understand why or what they're doing wrong, but it seems to work and they move out of the way. Probably makes them happy even because they'll have something to complain, in other words chit chat, about with their families when they get home.
Re the hissing. I'm now imagining a giant domestic cat exiting the S Bahn.
"They don't understand why or what they're doing wrong," I've noticed this and actually feel a pang of guilt for trying to impose my cultural values on the poor Berliners because my experience is also that my insistence on being able to exit the train before people pile on causes confusion. I'm British and we're trained to queue and be aware of the "first come first served" and "who is next" rules. -D
Look, the entire nation is completely autistic and incapable of any nuance so what's the point in trying to communicate with them like reasonable human beings? Animal sounds work better. Try it. It doesn't even have to be an aggressive hiss. More of like a jeering hiss. Just don't do it with Arabs. They don't respond well to being hissed at. Maybe something to do with coming from desert lands with snakes or perhaps they think the Jews are serpents who hiss or I don't know what, but definitely better to avoid hissing at the Arabs.
Well anons, time for me to go. Finally realized my German gf is not just ignorant (always assumed she just never critically thought about anything really). She's actually either retarded or evil, maybe both. The only reason I don't really believe she is retarded is because she knew to hide things about herself from me at the beginning of our relationship. Should've trusted my gut and left her after the first or second or even third stomach-dropping revelation she made to me but somehow I didn't or couldn't or wouldn't. Now I am just thoroughly disgusted by her. Such a freaking waste of time I'll never get back.
Germans always have some Chasing Amy level baggage their carrying. They published their nude photos in Bravo when they were 13 or they let a sauna full of middle-aged Krauts rail them one afternoon in their 20s. Maybe they showered with their brother until they were 16. Always some gross story so far beyond the norm you feel immediate disgust and no other emotion for them ever again.
Is she like a criminal or murderer or just has a lot of cummm in her belly? Honestly, most women have a lot of cumm in their belly in this day and age. I'm mostly accepted it at this point myself, but it took a lot of years. The key is to maintain your own secret life, look after yourself and not really expect much from others. Welcome to the age of narcissus.
Yeah, that sucks (literally and figuratively). Also considered completely normal behavior in this city and honestly with most women under 35 or so--except in other cities, I guess they hook up more via apps rather than by taking huge amounts of drugs and succcking strangers in club toilets while shittt techno blasts in the background. If a guy goes to a hoooker though, he's some kind of psycho rappist trafficker who hates women though. Unless it's some kind of stinky hairy feminist sex worker who charges 400 euros an hour--then that's all good. But if men question women blowing 5 randos with rotten diccks in a club bathroom, we're sex shaming them. This is why I'd cultivate a secret life and life about it just as much. No chance to remain innocent in our era unless you want to move to the country or become a Muslim and just get a nice slave Frau who you can beat the living shittt out of if she ever even so much as gets looked at by another guy. Dark times, but if you throw yourself into it and watch your own back at least it's possibly to have some fun.
But definitely don't develop feelings for some German woman who hangs out in clubs.
Bro just a couple of things and call me a retard or whatever I don't care.
1. I am a Christian and I think serial fornicating is a net negative and I told her this in plain language.
2. Even so, I can understand if a person has a different view on sexuality but that person is obviously not for me.
3. Even so, I could accept if she had gone through some normal exploration phase and learned something from it but she didn't and hasn't.
4. There's also a deeply broken component here akin to "I masturbated with my brother" (though it is not exactly this.
5. Now she is literally frigid.
6. She goes to vabali often.
Yeah, that sounds like a dead end situation where all that remains is more hurt and disappointment. I'd run from that ASAP, but that's easy to say and harder to do (we've all been there and I'm definitely not one to judge here).
As long as you're in this shittthole city and holding onto being a Christian (which yes, a bit retarded in my book or lack of a book, but your self-awareness and understanding of other views obviously compensates for Jesus' little bonerr still being up your asss) your best bet might be looking for some nice Polish or Ukrainian woman who only recently arrived. Better yet if she didn't intend or even want specifically to come to Berlin but wound up here due to studies, work, Russians bombing her town, whatever reason that doesn't include drugs, techno, sucking cocck in the club toilet or really anything about this city that could possibly attract anyone who had other options at this point.
There are still normal people and great kind interesting reasonably stable women in this city, but you definitely have to look. In my experience (and yours, it sounds like) the German ones are a bit of a trap because they seem normal at first glance and then only later the psychopathy and brokenness and stories about the lustig shower games with her brother or whatever start coming out.
Good luck though. Sounds like you're going to need it.
And once you're out, get a STI test for god's sake.
Why are German women liars? They can go be degenerate with krautmen, but no they want a truly western man (i.e. I pay for literally everything in the relationship) and they know for that they must lie. But even so, why get lazy and be honest after some time? Last gf literally stopped washing her hands in winter because "it dries my skin out" and was constantly picking her nose around me. Absolute goblin. Broke up the third time I saw this shit. Should've done it the first time. And she thinks I'm crazy for having too high expectations. Filth bitch.
I defended their smell above, but then I remembered it's been a couple years since I last slept with one and their pussssies smell either like cheap scented soap or like several day old fish. I assume that means either they've washed themselves diligently with cheap soap recently or that they don't wash altogether and generally have rather poor hygiene own there.
Why do they get away with being so disrespectful? Just witnessed disrespectful behaviour yesterday and wondered why so many people don't stand up for themselves in this city. Any other country and they would literally get ko'd cold instantly.
Most likely it's the other way around, people in Berlin act nasty because they've never been punched in the face before. And as the newer generations of germans and arabs can't fight at all, this behaviour will continue. Just dare them to act that way in another country... I know a few germans who totally had to change their character after getting few left hooks in the jaw on the streets in Buenos Aires.
Usually they shut up when you react. I've probably developed an anger problem living here and I'll go from being relatively happy and content to a total jerk in like 2 seconds when some german annoys me. To others around it probably seems like I am unreasonable, but I am sure that I am totally reasonable in these situations. But still, a grown man yelling at a tiny blond German woman probably seems suspect. Anyway, I've never once encountered anyone defend the other person. They all just shirk off or look at their phones, waiting for some authority to deal with it. Learned helplessness.
I'm fairly sure that we all have perceptual blindspots resulting from whatever culture we were inculcated with as children but some Germans seem particularly resistant reality. A few years back I clipped the rear wheel of a woman's bicycle with the front wheel of mine almost knocking her off her saddle. I stopped, immediately apologised for my mistake, offered to call an ambulance if she was injured and offered my first aid kit for her use as well. I also gave her bike a quick once over to make she she could still ride it. This didn't stop 3 German women from stopping and lecturing me. I let them go on for about 30 seconds before I just said, "Stop! I've done every thing in my power to make things right so it looks like your actions are more about working your own problems instead of actually addressing the issue!" I then cycled away. They were still lecturing me as I turned the next corner. :-D
Going back to Canada. Second time living here. I haven’t travelled much in the last 4 months. The Germans I know who have travelled or lived in other countries are smart. The ones who never leave Berlin or take one vacation a year to like some island (Mallorca) or whatever are not cultured. They literally live in Europe. They could take a weekend away to like Amsterdam or London or any city. But no. They just stay in Berlin and rot. And I thought this is why they can pretend they are best. If they never leave. But no. I realized even those that travel can think they are best, I met someone who is always travelling bc a DJ. I think they forget that the wall fell which made space for the events that happened before. But also remember back in the 90s raves were everywhere? London? Ibiza? Etc? This wasn’t the most special place ever for that, just for techno, which they stole from black people and Americans yet claim to hate the USA or whatever. This country makes no sense. And since I stopped travelling for a bit I started “adapting”. Starting to see the sadism as somewhat normal. Or the shittyy clothing everywhere which I immediately notice once I come back. I don’t want to adapt and I’m saving my brain. Bye
Also something I’ve noticed in Berlin is this concept “I don’t know you”. So people, even foreigners who have “adapted” here, think because they “know” a person then that person take priority or has to be good. So like, if I say hey your friend is abusing me, they go “oh I don’t see it liked that” or whatever because really they don’t want to say it but they KNOW that person. There is so much of this stuff in Berlin. It makes no sense, where I’m from it doesn’t matter how long you know someone, if they are shittyyy you just cut them off otherwise you’d be shunned socially for associating and protecting an abusive person. But here it doesn’t matter. So we have psychos running amok abusing people or no one wants to hear what the “new” person has to say because they know me less? Also so many toxic people in this city I can’t wait to get out. I don’t want to assimilate or end up thinking this stuff is normal
Like “you’re a stranger to me, I know this person”. I get it a lot. I never noticed this outside of Germany, but people really just automatically side with the person they are closer with here or can bring them some kind of benefit. They won’t even question their accountability, they just side with them blindly. It’s dumb
If you ever have the misfortune of raising a kid here you'll understand how deeply broken Germany is. Basically you make a best friend in kindergarten and they stay your best friend forever. Not because you like them, but because Germans all have avoidant personality disorder and eventually you give up trying. Kids don't mingle on playgrounds, truly mental behavior. It's not like that in the anglosphere. Germans too distrustful despite pretending to be open. But yeah, very cliquish and irrational beings.
Die Petze, der Besserwisser und der Islamist - the holy trinity of this country.
The ugly sweat smell of two young girls at bus stop today
That's a weird thing to be upset about.
Unless you're one of those incels 4 Allah types who want women to be covered up like slaves and for the only body odor you imbibe to be in the mosque, when you're all lined up on your little carpets bobbing your heads up and down simulating blowwwing Allah, and your uncle Ahmed is there, kneeled down on the carpet in front of you, and each time he lowers his head and raises his asss to deep throat Allah, the sweet sensual scent of shitttt and sweat and cheap knockoff cologne flows backwards directly from Uncle Ahmed's fetid assscrack and right into your nose, downs into your lungs, into you, and up into your mind and making you high, so high, higher than you've ever been before and praise be Allah. Praise be Allah.
Otherwise, I don't know, man. The smell of young women's sweat just doesn't seem like something be angry about. Sounds kind of hot tbh.
Recently held the lift door open for some young girl, probably 15 or 15. She looked normal but God she smelled like the worst men's locker room ever. How do people go through life without anyone telling them about deodorant? Reminds of of that dict.leo.oeg thread for like 2005 where a bunch of Germans are arguing over why Americans say they stink and someone has to post the Wikipedia page for whatever the scientific name of body odour is for the Germans to understand.
Despite all the unpleasant things about Germans and new Germans (i.e. Arabs), I've never understood the thing on here about them smelling so bad. Haven't sniffed any 15 year olds, so I can't really say anything about that, but the grown women smell all right, maybe a little metalic and sweet, which sort of sums up the robot/child dichotomy that defines so much of German behavior, but nothing awful.
And I can't stand the Arabs in almost every sense, but one thing you can say for them is they're reasonable clean, mostly just smell of too much cheap perfume and fruity shisha or vape smells. Not great, but not the worst and tbh some Frenchman with cheap red wine on his breath is probably harder on the nose in the end. So I wrote the above about Uncle Ahmed's fetid assscrack, but the fact is Uncle Ahmed probably smells less offensively than most men his age. Still wouldn't want down on a carpet deepthroatting Allah up and down a few cm from his asss, but still, despite my hatred of the Arabs, I'll concede that Uncle Ahmed probably maintains a basic level of hygiene that is probably on par if not better than the average European male his age.
Funniest thing ever basically is to ask an eastern European woman what she thinks of German women. They are so brutally honest it's glorious. If Germans were honest like they claim they are then they would also say the same things, but for some reason dumpster tier hygiene is a protected status in Germany. Crazy how many Germans have greasy, unbrushed hair and smelly wrinkled clothes. I get that they probably just want to avoid Muslim attention or serial german flashers in the metro, but at some point a society has to step up and say "having ugly women is a price too high to avoid dreg rapes" and exile them all. Anyway, ugly women is probably the main reason nothing of value has come from Germany in like 200 years. Who would a successful German even want to impress? Even the Biontech guy, probably the biggest German success in recent history, chose to stay with his foreign wife. I feel like historically, wars would've been waged over this type of thing but the Germans just roll over and beg not to be called racist and protest in support of dumb degenerate krautisms that make women here want to be hideous. The end.
Does all of Europe just seem to be fucked? It really seems to be going downhill…
Yes, but in different ways. Poland and the Baltics are really nice and developing fast and they don't have Arabs everywhere leeching off the system, harassing and gangrapping women, trying to bring sharia and other Muslim values to Europe. You can feel the difference: Warsaw, for example, is so much nicer, cleaner, and just generally better than Berlin at the point on most fronts unless your main reason for being here is anonymous sex, drug use, techno clubs.
A lot of it comes down to not having millions of Muslims who contribute fucck all to society while sucking it dry.
But on the other side, there is Russia and Eastern Europe might be fuccked again on that front.
Just wait 5 years, right-wing populists will do forced remigration and then we'll be back to complaining about how smelly bio Europeans are and how they're too retarded and miserly to piss indoors. Crazy guy has an obvious point about Muslim retards being a problem, but he misses the part about most Germans also being massive shitheads. The best QOL is to be had outside of big cities unless you're a sex deviant.
So many of the Muslims have already been given passports to, at least in the statistics, become German Burgergeld recipients and German gangrappists, and it'll be more or less impossible to deport them. In a horrible way, Europe's best demographic hope long term is some kind of war so that they can send all the Arabs off to the trenches to defend the pigbreathed natives from Russia or China or whoever.
Germany can't even get its busses to run anymore. Doesn't have functional internet. When it rains a little the city's basic infrastructure stops running.
I don't think they can pull off another genocide except maybe their own. Like suicide by cop only the cop is some Syrian scummmfuck stabbing them in the neck 4 Allah.
A lot of the dilapidated German infrastructure is done on purpose but also a lot is fake. About 10 years ago there was this scandal where the German military had to use broomsticks in place of cannons for some military parade and it was all fake. Keep in mind Germany is building the largest secret service complex in the entire world right now. GDR was bankrupt and retarded and they still managed to have 1/6 of the population as registered informants. Germans are natural born snitches and unless you slept through COVID that should be obvious. Ii also would like to think German the is too poor and incompetent to pull off another genocide but the sad truth is that it would be cheaper in the medium term than paying to house these people.
Germans are so dumb but think they are so smart