There are plenty of reasons to despise this filth ridden city. What bothers you most?

please login / register to post images

6 of 6 people agree with this  

  Mücke wrote:

no true face, just fake ... superficial city

3 of 3 people agree with this  
  Anonymous wrote:

It has a true face.... and its hideous

Comment on this

6 of 6 people agree with this  

  Jobe wrote:

LOL at these comments...iv read 7 pages north and had a good laugh...I was in Berlin last year for 3 months and experience one of the rudeness mentioned here...but above all I've finally realised something



which, at the time I couldn't quite understand, but after reading thee posts makes perfect sense..I was dating a German girl and could not figure out why she wouldn't wash/bathe after a full days work..she would stink and I s completely puzzled as to why she didn't shower or use deodorant..it was only after I said something and argued about it that she changed her habits!! So now it all makes sense...they are fooking stinkers!!! Lol

Comment on this

6 of 7 people agree with this  

  Anonymous wrote:

Everyone is a "DJ".

5 of 5 people agree with this  
  Anonymous wrote:

or an artist

5 of 5 people agree with this  
  Anonymous wrote:

or has a "project" on the side

Comment on this

6 of 6 people agree with this  

  Anonymous wrote:

newbie here... a little story that caught me off guard but it seems to be the norm. I went walking in the Koepenick forest the other day... beautiful sunny day, crisp air, birds on the wing... I was feeling quite joyful and light of heart. Ahead on the path was a sweet looking older couple heading in my direction... I recited my practiced German greeting in my head a couple times and as they got nearer, I caught the Husband in the eye and with a hearty and honest smile said "Guten Morgen"! He not only didn't register my heartfelt greeting but he quickly turned his eyes to the path, put his arm up protectively in front of his wife with a look of shock and horror, she looked away quickly with a horrified expression and the both shuffled almost off the path to get around and past me as quickly as possible. I was quite literally dumbfounded and stood with my mouth agape for some time trying to process what had occurred. From what I see and read.. I am due for more of this?

0 of 0 people agree with this  
  Dan wrote:

Yes welcome to Berlin! Ugh!

0 of 0 people agree with this  
  Anonymous wrote:

Haha! Wait until you Compliment someone...LMAO, then you'll see their true Colours.

0 of 1 people agree with this  
  Anonymous wrote:

Willkommen in Berlin!

Comment on this

7 of 7 people agree with this  

  Olololol wrote:

Hello there,

can anyone comment specifically on the state of Bavaria? The opinions on this site seem to be valid in any area to a large extent. As stated in my previous post, I have mostly lived in Bavaria and would like to share some complementary ideas with you.

German guys will not stand for their opinions (if they have any at all) but instead blindly support their women (their very low standards to women reflect this reality). It seems, they are shit-scared of what their women think of them. Far too often, you are dealing with hidden female hierarchies which don't include a tiniest bit of human warmth.

Generally, don't expect to be welcome anywhere. There is an incredibly widespread feeling of collective superiority among Germans and they will let you feel it, if you are not concidered being one of them.

Xenophobia is rampant. If you dare to propose the slightest change to anything, you will be seen as enemy immediatelly, even without having done anything. This is where their „we know it all better“ part comes in. They preserve this belief by disregarding other's perspectives.

Looking for human warmth? Germany is a role-based society and your role as a foreign person is being a half-slave. Assigned and preserved by almost everyone. And if you are not executing the role as expected, prepare to be treated like a dog.

Want to be seen as an individual? Your worth is meassured by the group of people you are being associated with and your percieved rank in it. Speak five languages and have lots of life experience? No one cares. On the other hand, everyone wants to find out your status-related information as soon as possible so that they can jugde you by their standards.

You see yourself as a man of character? You will find out, that Germans rarely have a character because they sacrifice every bit of it for the sake of their conformist mainstream collectivism. Of course, they expect you to do the same even though there is nothing in there for you.

An interesting fact to note is that Germans see themselves as a part of the political system dispite not trusting their politicians and dispite being fooled. They also tend to believe the press and the television. They seem to assume truth because of the free press ideology. Critical thinking seems less important then subordination.

Ultimately, if you are a man of your own and unique character, you will find far more gratitude and human warmth in return for your integrational attempts in other countries then in Germany.

6 of 6 people agree with this  
  Name-cannot-be-blank wrote:

Your post is really good, I felt identified with some aspects you've mentioned here. So here are my 2 cents. I know that Bavaria is one of the most closed societies in Germany, so much so, that other Germans label Bavarians as hardcore conservatives. I cannot say anything specific to Bavarians more than I met and tried to mix with some of them during my time at the university. I can, however, say a couple things about Lower Saxony where, unfortunately, I lived for a couple years before moving to Berlin (where I found about this website) and finally back to America.


As a male I must write this disclaimer, I in no way even suggest that women shouldn't be allowed as part of a hierarchy, power, leading roles, etc. This is only a critic about the role of women in German society in general, it's not an attack to women in general.


Being Lower Saxony one of the least diverse areas in Germany your description about Bavaria fits LS almost perfectly. It has some differences though, where you mentioned that people treat you like a dog, in LS expect to find signs at the entrance of stores saying that they won't allow foreigners into the store. So they won't even treat them. (I never said they were good differences). So besides xenophobic door policies and denied services, which I've only heard about my grandpa mention and CRITICIZE, there is one thing that really caught my eye, female hierarchies.
How female hierarchies affect Germany is in no way foreign to us, we've all been affected by that rude bank teller, that crazy female neighbor that has cats and walks around naked (true story) and that next door German girl you like, yes the one that never showers, that one that always gives you the nastiest looks. So why should we care, I'm not German. Well that's the point, most German males haven't ever seen any better, but we have, so that's why we complain. Plus the cultural discourse of the superiority of German people and Germany lead males to think that that is the way it should be. Never to confront females, being pushed by fear while females decide, quietly, very quietly what to do and whom to hate. They never will tell anything directly, they will only ostracize the others and in order to gain acceptance (forget it if you are not German born by several generations) you must only negotiate your way through women. Because a male, won't be your friend just because he likes you and have gotten hammered some times while watching football , no, his female bully friend, girlfriend or even mom has to approve of this first, if and only if the other person has the status to be approved of. How do I know this, I don't want to tell. But this is inhuman because this isn't only about friendships, it's about everything in life, from getting a loan to graduating from high school (Abitur's got nothing on the SAT), to befriending somebody to getting married, to building up a business to getting a job.

I don't know how everything became the way it is now, that is to a sociologist to inquire, I simply don't have the slightest interest in knowing how.

So if you've got the feeling that rules are not clear, you are not the only one. It's because they are hidden to outsiders, hang on long enough and they maybe adopt you as their pet but you won't know the rules, not ever. You will only be conditioned as a drooling dog. You cannot know the rules. You cannot know the truth. The truth: that this is an empty shell with no content, no soul, no brains, no essence, only repetition... only custom.

Comment on this

1 of 3 people agree with this  

  Anonymous wrote:

them: There have been big name artists living in the city, like David Bowie
me: Who the f-u-ck is David Bowie

Comment on this

5 of 5 people agree with this  

  Unemployed wrote:

bc employers won't hire me because my skin is dark, even though I got a master's degree in science.

1 of 1 people agree with this  
  Franco wrote:

Exactly!! Ever see anyone that isnt German working in a decent job?! Nope...they only hire themselves. Berlin is painted a Miserable shade of Alabaster.

1 of 1 people agree with this  
  Anonymous wrote:

Actually.... i havent

3 of 3 people agree with this  
  Dan wrote:

Exactly! ever notice all the real jobs go to Germans, Im talking about the 9 to 5 normal ones paid 2,000 to 2,500 for example, but us foreigners can take all the poop slave jobs right..... so yes you are quite correct THEY ONLY HIRE THEMSELVES!

4 of 4 people agree with this  
  Franco wrote:

Indeed Dan. And it's not because they are qualified. It's because Germans are threatened by anything different...anyone they fear they cant control. They know that Qualified Foreigners are smarter, work harder and would wipe the floor with their sh*tty so-called German Work Ethic.

0 of 1 people agree with this  
  Truth wrote:

Sorry, but i've seen so many people applying for a job at our place without knowing at least basic german.. i would never try to get a good job in paris without knowing french...!?

4 of 5 people agree with this  
  Anonymous wrote:

@Truth I so would like that to be my case, because then it would make some sense. If me being completely incapable of articulating a single word in German and me having a completely obnoxious touristy attitude were the reasons for not offering me a position, or calling back that's fine, really. I am a big boy I know how job hunting is. That would make some sense actually and I wouldn't come here and rant about this issue. But that was not the case. Let me tell you something about myself mate, I speak German, so I know for a fact that that wasn't the problem. The thing is that in BERLIN I've been told in the face, bluntly, that the color of my skin WAS the reason (and also a problem for some) why I haven't been taken into consideration, several times (or something along those lines). That I might be not fit (or even detrimental) to their company culture. That I should be working with my people (whatever that means) and I'd be better off in my community (wherever the hell that is). I grew up in a +1M city (not Berlin fyi) so I don't have "a community". It is cute and kinda naive for you to think that the language is the problem, it's not. Educated foreigners are everywhere China, HK, UK, etc. So, go on, please keep treating young professionals like shi-t and enjoy your shrinking labor force, I'm sure eurotrash Berliners will fill the labor force shortage. No wonder why young Europeans from other countries (with degrees) don't stay longer than a year, even the ones from Greece and Spain. Now I work for corporate America, I am finally free from that evil spell called Berlin.

Comment on this

5 of 5 people agree with this  

  Anonymous wrote:

The staring.

1 of 1 people agree with this  
  Seth wrote:

starring is a traditional Sport for Berliners/germans

0 of 0 people agree with this  
  Seth wrote:

staring is a traditional Sport for Berliners/germans

Comment on this

1 of 1 people agree with this  

  Anonymous wrote:

Even the lego here is fascist...
imgur.com/a/ZznAY

Comment on this

4 of 4 people agree with this  

  Anonymous wrote:

Whale Watching at that sh*tty lake in the middle of nowhere.

0 of 0 people agree with this  
  Bomberharris wrote:

haha pooping lake, yes berlin is a shity horrible place to live

Comment on this

15 of 15 people agree with this  

  Anonymous wrote:

The only way to make Berliners move faster is to make them think you’re trying to get in front of them.

Comment on this

24 of 24 people agree with this  

  SAD wrote:

This city has shattered my soul. I used to always think the best of people - it was up to them to keep that status. After two years of staring, dirty looks, snarky attitudes and the honest belief of possession of all knowledge (and that I am obviously stupid and therefore require thorough explanation of, say, how to dial a phone), I have changed. Now, with a permanent scowl on my face, I hate everyone I encounter. Yes, this city has turned me into one of them. Be warned - leave as soon as you can.

A few thoughts:

Deodorant and shampoo don’t make you a capitalist. Looking nice (long hair, clean clothes, shaved legs) doesn’t mean you live within the life-sucking-white-cis-male system that controls it all.
Since when is biking for 4 hours in cold, rain and mud a fun-filled activity? And why oh why must I tolerate condescending looks when I say "I would rather stay at home and watch a movie"?
A cold lake with sand around it is not a beach.
Ice cream when it’s 2 degrees outside “because it’s spring and it’s sunny” is stupid.
Drinking alcohol is not a free pass to propose that I touch your penis. Just because you’re drunk after one beer does not mean you can behave like a primate.
Close your legs in the U-bahn, there are other people in the world besides yourself. And (gasp!) not only when they’re in your way.
Don’t expect me to respect you because you have a Dr. in front of your name. I will too in a few months, and I expect you to respect me for being a PERSON, not for having an academic title. (BTW, the subject of academia in berlin is a whole other potential website on its own, I’m open to rant and hear rants).
Berlin (old and young berliners, expats, whoever you are): free yourself from this jail of a mind you have. Try having your own opinion for a change, just to see how it feels.

3 of 3 people agree with this  
  Anonymous wrote:

And another thing: don't fart in the U bahn. It's rude and there's no air.

3 of 3 people agree with this  
  Anonymous wrote:

The city has done the same to me, I barely remember what laughter is. But respect for the title Dr only applies to Germans, I came here with that title from a world class university and still get treated like shit.

0 of 0 people agree with this  
  Dm wrote:

I have been here for 3 years doing a masters. I wanted to get an academic job at a university or a research center, but i don't want to be here anymore. Apart from all the reasons already heard, i slowly realize that the re is a heavy hierarchy in academics and if you are an inmigrant from a 3rd world contry like me, you will always probably have the stigma. I know everybody has to start from the start, but i also don't want to like some professor doctor's balls. what can you tell me about this? Like, i am up to work hard , but not the additionally bare the sense of superiority and the condescendence of this guys.( I mean yes, i am late, i don't speak perfect german, y can't write a perfect text in academic german , and i don't plan, and i am slow, fair enough)?

1 of 1 people agree with this  
  Dm wrote:

sorry i can't write in english either haha. i meant "lick some professor dr. 's balls" and "not to additionally bare ... of these guys" . thanks !

Comment on this

5 of 5 people agree with this  

  Berlinerdad wrote:

grey, lifeless, cackhole of a place. I came here because of a girl.. thought she was a woman, turned out she was a heartless, cold, vindictive b?tch that likes to use children to push her selfish agenda... saddest thing is they are her own children... and mine... Now I am stuck in this horrible place around these horrible ugly, emotionless, cold, carbon footprints fighiting every day to instill the smallest glimmer of humanity in my children that are regularly taught to discount me and all that I stand for. I so want out but can't leave my kids to become Berliners... what do I do!??!

3 of 3 people agree with this  
  ThisPlaceSucksShit wrote:

Grab your kids and RUN. NOW. fornicate the bezirkamt.

3 of 3 people agree with this  
  Anonymous wrote:

I'm in the exact same situation, or I should say my son and I are. Hang in there and remember that the kids need you and never give up. Just be the best dad you can be. As they grow up, they'll see right through her. Well, that's my plan, anyway. I have at least 10 years ahead of me here. As for the people who tell me that Berlin is a great place to raise kids: Berlin is a great place to teach kids how to smoke cigarettes.

6 of 6 people agree with this  
  Anonymous wrote:

Ahh Berlin... not a good place to raise children.. they will become Berliners... 'nuff said

Comment on this

7 of 7 people agree with this  

  Olololol wrote:

Hi there,

after having read all the previous posts, I am really impressed how accurate the descriptions are and would like to share my own perspective with you. Very fortunatelly I have never been to Berlin, but I have lived in various locations in Bavaria instead, which is supposed to be the high-class area of Germany.

In fact, you may easily get impressed by the polished surface. But, if you stay for more then a few months, you will inevitably get the odd feeling that things are not what you assumed them to be. The good looks of places, people and stuff stop matter because that's not what matters. What matters are your interactions with people and you will find out that there is a severe lack of.

Germany is a very feminist society (although the level of hatred may be lower then in english-speaking countries) so that most local guys will not stand for their opinion but instead always support the opinions of women in a given social setting (their very low standards to woman reflect this reality). You are basically dealing with female hierarchies anytime and anywhere. Good luck climbing the social ladder if your origins are supposed to be low-value.

On top of that, Germany is a social circle game. Any non-mechanic social interaction happens exclusively in a social circle and, again, good luck getting in as a foreigner. Generally, don't expect to be welcome anywhere. There is an incredibly widespread feeling of collective superiority of Germans which is why people won't even bother listening to your opinion no matter how long you have been living in Germany.

As a student, I can tell you how German students spend their time. They go out in locked-up groups to an as-cheap-as-possible place, get drunk and return home. Repeat once every few days. That's it. If you dare to communicate your criticism of this kind of „culture“ in any way, prepare to become a very lonely student. And I haven't event touched all the xenophobia yet. If you dare to introduce the slightest change to anything, you will be seen as an enemy to the group immediatelly.

Ultimately, if you are a man of your own and unique character, you won't miss anything if you avoid Germany altogether.

1 of 1 people agree with this  
  Ediz wrote:

"Germany is a very feminist society"
^^ Yes, It's True and That sucks

2 of 2 people agree with this  
  Anonymous wrote:

"Ultimately, if you are a man of your own and unique character, you won't miss anything if you avoid Germany altogether." delightful turn of phrase and spot on!

4 of 4 people agree with this  
  Anonymous wrote:

Germany is a big asocial circlejerk

Comment on this

12 of 12 people agree with this  

  Adolf wrote:

If Berlin is any reflection of how typical Germany society was in the 1930-40's, I'm not surprised one bit how what happened was able to happen... It takes a certain type of disconnected zombie like people.

1 of 1 people agree with this  
  Anonymous wrote:

*hypnotoad image here*

Comment on this
Page 178 of 194