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Guys, I’m desperate. I’m highly qualified and have achieved extraordinary things in my life so far (of course, all that is useless in Germany because they have no idea about anything that’s different from an ausbildung). Where should I move to? I’m very ambitious and work very hard to achieve things. But Germany keeps treating me like an unskilled worker (when I have mSc and all of that). Where to move to? Any thoughts?
UK, US, Switzerland even though they're basically Germans BUT they have less of a nanny state and wages that are like 2x what's normal in Berlin. Singapore or Australia if you are so put off by Europe from your bad experience in Berlin (can't really blame you if you are). In general, unless you moved to some war torn country I can't really see how life could suck more than in Berlin.
Germany can never achieve the level of achievement of the USA because of the negative (not pessimistic, just downright negative) mentality of the people there. A German word you expats may not be aware of is "Traumtänzer". It basically means "daydreamer" (Traum=dream, Tänzer=dancer). Most of the hustlers and extremely successful Americans people look up to and whose quotes abound in motivational videos are what the average German would call a "Traumtänzer": people who have a vision of what their life should be like and go all the way until they make those dreams happen.
Foreigners who arrive in Germany with big plans for their lifes are in for lots of disappointment. You yourselves are probably more qualified than your German counterparts, but due to Germany being such a restrictive and racist country, climbing up the social ladder is rendered pretty much impossible. I don't know of many foreigners who arrived in Germany and somehow ended up living the life. Most of them are lucky if they manage to rent a small appartment for the entire family and drive a small car (often a second-hand one).
If you want to hustle and become the best version of your self, avoid Germany. Germans are notoriously cold, blunt, rude and negative. They will not build you up, but bring you down. They don't even like it when their own countrymen are successful (refer to one of the posts below), so it is expected that they won't want foreigners to make it. Germany offers foreigners the chance to study (and the chance for landlords to make money off naive foreigners), but you will be discriminated on the job market. You will be discriminated in your everyday life. You will either leave the country feeling frustrated that you wasted so much time, effort and money in what was advertised as a land full of opportunities, or you will stay and either indulge in alcohol or drugs to alleviate the mental strain or just become German and end up as a soulless carcass.
Perfect post. I came to Germany because of a German girl. Got here and realized that, by default, all door were closed to me. I believed the hype and that I was jusr doing things wrong so I tried to Germanize. I went to German university, even got a German master's. After graduation I realized that all doors are still closed to me. Doesn't matter how much you try here, as a foreigner you will always be stuck in a dead end, low level job. I earn enough to save about 200eur per month max. And I am even a white, German-looking foreigner who speaks very good German. Cannot imagine how bad things are for blacks and asians here.
What also gets me down is looking at what my friends from high school have accomplished. They own houses, have families with kids, own boats and rental homes. Then I look at my "friends" here (I find it difficult to consider any German a friend. They're passing acquaintances.) and I see what they've accomplished. Over 40 and still renting the same apartment for 15 years, no car at all, no long-term financial planning, nothing. Some are in thrir late 30s and still living with roommates. Almost none of my "friends" ever bothered getting married because that's just too conservative for Berlin.
Germany doesn't feel anything like the Germany-worship you see all over the internet makes you think it'd feel. I honestly feel like I am stuck in a sort of prison here, and the low pay means it will be a LONG time before I am able to leave.
If you're new here and think the problems you notice are you then just get out immediately. Don't study here, don't settle for a job below your intelligence, don't mingle with Germans. If you have to stay here then find a company full of foreigners, if possible. Dealing with Germans 24/7 will rob you of your self respect and eventually you'll start to believe you are inferior.
Moving here was undoubtedly the biggest mistake of my life. This city is evil or cursed or something. I honestly believe that.
All true, just wanted to add one thing. The only way I managed to deal with life in Berlin was getting drunk or higg everyday after work. In the long run it wrecked me health-wise. Been completely sober now for about a year and this place gets worse by the day.
'Germany doesn't feel anything like the Germany-worship you see all over the internet makes you think it'd feel'
I totally get that. If one were to take a short holiday in Germany (2-3 weeks or so) then one might easily be impressed or taken in by the hype. Spend a few months (or longer) there, then you start to get a very different picture of what it is.
Mate what's up with German girls? So many send mixed signals and are complicated. Met a girl recently who was even worse in that regard even by German girls standards. Totally dazed and confused.
It's honestly Avoidant Personality Disorder. Almost all Germans have it. They oscillate between mania and depression and they are nearly incapable of communicating. Even nice Berliners have huge problems being honest and talking about difficult, meaningful things.
99.9% of Germans have mental issues. Really. Even when I meet really nice germans, it’s not long before I realize there’s something fishy about them. This is a sick society. Not even germans themselves can endure it. You know what’s really funny? Most Germans living abroad have the same opinion as we BHers have. Ask them and you’ll see. “That mentality”, “it’s because of my fellow countrymen that I’m abroad”, “German society is selfish”, “jealous” etc. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire. A sick society
Was watching a video on youtube by Ruptly of the anti-lockdown protests a couple of months back in Berlin. In the video I kept seeing the police spraying something on protesters. Didn't seem to bother them much so I assume it's not pepperspray/tear gas. But what is it? Anyone know?
The number of people who don't care to wear a mask on public transport. A date with Miss Rona, anyone? Clowns.
Masks probably don't work anyway but that's not really the point. Germany's great at making rules and not enforcing them, which does nothing but further erode public support for laws/rules. If there's a 500EUR penalty for not wearing a mask then they should have people checking at every station and enforcing it. Doing otherwise is just a sham. Now, if one guy on a train in the middle of nowhere in Berlin did a Hitler salute then I am 100% positive they'd arrest him and fine him.
Duh, that piece of plexiglass totally protects them. Also all the cashiers wearing face shields. Coronavirus is totally spread by people breathing directly into your face and totally not through aerosols that aren't filtered. Obviously Germans know how to keep the virus from spreading since thus far like 9k people have died (normal year about 25k Germans die of the regular flu but in this year only 411 this season according to Robert Koch Instutut). Germans just know everything about preventing disease even though there are no novel treatments that have been developed in Germany. And if you don't completely believe everything written above you are a conspiracy theorist and it should be illegal to deny any of it.
I only rode the subway twice since lockdown and saw one person not wearing a mask each ride. Both looked turkish. That said, Germans have a tendency to wear them on their mouth/chin only which is pointless. Also all the people with masks that have exhale valves - those are also worthless.
the walk of shame is a whole lot dirtier and lonelier
I'm ashamed of Berlin. I always make excuses so my parents won't visit me here because I don't want them to see what a hole this place really is. I don't want my mother to see so many men pissing in the street. I don't want my father to see all the gay stuff going on in public parks. I don't want them to see how poor this city looks and how depressing it is in the winter.
Luckily most people in the US (where I'm from) don't care about Germany and don't know how degenerate Berlin really is. When I make it back later this year I hope most people won't think of me as an untouchable if I tell them I lived here.
The walk of shame? That’s knowing all the people who you went to High School and University are doing well. And your dumb butt thought it would be a great idea to move to Europe. Now you are stuck and broke in this piss city and working a minimal wage job. That’s a walk a shame!!!
I love how everyone is an individual in Berlin, you never see two Germans looking the same, or saying the same things, or cooking the same food, or listening to the same mindfuck, pathetic techno garbage 'music'.
Yes Berlin really is a city for free spirits. I am always amazed at how every Berliner I meet has a different worldview and a completely different life philosophy. It's always refreshing to speak with strangers here because they all seem like a completely different species. Not once have my prejudices about any Berliner been correct upon closer inspection. This city definitely does something to foster critical thinking and free thought.
I love how everyone is an individual in Berlin, you never see two Germans looking the same, or saying the same things, or cooking the same food, or listening to the same mindfuck, pathetic techno garbage 'music'.
Germans really try to give our life advice. Bro I see what you’re wearing, where you’re living, how you’re picking up, who you’re dating, your dumb butt kids, your pooping attitude, your pompous ness and terrible taste, the shittyy food you eat, your awful sense of style, lack of manners, and your stupid job. And rented apartment. Get the fuccc outta here
I love how people in Berlin talk like they know everything about everything when in their 30s they have still not experienced
-making above a students wages
-professionalism
-owning anything
-financial management
-actual game when it comes to dating as well as sensuality
-motivation and ambition
You basically will never like Berlin if you come from an actual city, that isn’t completely shit. You’ll just like Berlin if you like being a pleb or maybe have rich parents where you can live your pleb fantasy. Oh, and if you are a ducking loser where you come from so you can just be cool in Berlin.
Anyway They’re basically eternal students and tbh I feel sorry for them because they’ll never know if they spent their entire 20s in Berlin anything to compare it to, then later in life they’ll be stuck inBerlin while all their friends who visited for a few years have moved on and didn’t fornicate themselves for the future. I doubt any of these fuckers have been to more than a two star hotel
Because as adults we don’t drink one euro beers by a canal, we make a time to meet someone and show up to it and buy them dinner as a show of respect and treating them properly. It’s the same way we don’t just lie there in bed or semen instantly. Why do you starfish?
Lazy German fuckerZ
I can spot german women in other countries from a mile away. (Or would they like the specific square metres of kilometres haha?!) baggy, massive pants for the ladies. Some dumb butt scarf in +29 C?!? Some stupid backpack ( get a rolling suitcase if you are over 20 lol) and some dumb butt braids. Not to mention, body language classless, no makeup, and BO
Customer service.
I have an emergency in my flat, called the provided, grumpy female dog answered.
Asked if English is OK as my German is not so good. No. Any colleagues I can get transferred? No.
Eventually I excused myself in advance for the bad German and tried to explain the Notfall.
She understands until checked my contract, and saw I have a basic one (sorry for not having a fancy corporate one for the flat I live alone, bitch) and then she got the worst attitude I have ever gotten.
Talking over me, rude, literally flipping me off to send an email and insulting me that she cannot deal with my bad German, raising her voice.
Eventually I raised mine too only to call her a cow and hang up.
It drives me insane how inconsiderate and rude these human beings can be, and I am
mesmerized that they have jobs dealing with people.
To the “German” troll who posts here. This research explains your mentality better than we do. Jealousy, only enjoying when you do provocative things, having stress all the time... www.google.gr/amp/s/www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/study-finds-germans-incapable-of-enjoying-life-a-834973-amp.html
“Doch wer gilt schon gerne als egoistisch (62 Prozent), materialistisch (56 Prozent), rücksichtslos (50 Prozent), gierig (49 Prozent) und überheblich (43 Prozent)? Die Angaben in Klammern geben an, wie viele Deutschen ihren wohlhabenden Mitbürgern – zumeist ohne sie zu kennen – diese negativen Eigenschaften zuschreiben.“ Gtfo Cherman.
Translation: “But who likes to be considered selfish (62 percent), materialistic (56 percent), ruthless (50 percent), greedy (49 percent) and arrogant (43 percent)? The information in brackets shows how many Germans attribute these negative characteristics to their wealthy fellow citizens - mostly without knowing them. ”Gtfo Cherman.
Today I said that there should be more incentitives to work, such as higher pay. If getting Hartz 4 leaves you better of financially there is no need to work.
Some German thought that this will ruin peoples lives because of Lohndumping. Weird German logic.
Honestly the only college course I learned anything useful in qas economics. Germans have special interest groups that habe been lobbying to prevent economics from being taught to all children as part of the standard curriculum and I am convinced it's because it would put a stop to all these dumb ideas like above. Especially Berliners would benefit from learning a little about the free market and why populist lefty ideas like rent caps don't work.
There's a German troll in here, guys. OR... Someone pretended to be German. Be diligent. And keep posting! ;)