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They see human things as weak. They often exploit situations. Due to all this mess, by the way of God and and life situations naturally arise that are originally meant to get in touch with each other. They read situations and stupidly seek an advantage or withhold their human contribution. Surely it is not intended in the purest sense of it but that wud be thought too far. It's often a rat race. Quite a few only go about the opposite of something human, aside any logic. It's a disgrace true human things are being exploited by this low s.hit! Many are also really f.ucking stupid, just really unreal f.ucking stupid.._They try to put words in your mouth, intuitively motivated by the "good" feel of receiving the misunderstood replacement of a human response. In a pure life sense they are so unreal f.ucking stupid, they lack any grasp of karma, always drifting with the whatever is up. They are also cowards and liars, they will let you run up against their crooked backs when they lie by omission. They literally lie that they lie. If you needed something, they might really not be able to give, but instead they enjoy (some) that you think they lie and exploit their position of having more information, but acting like they want to avoid the topic. What these human debiles don't know is that we all have God inside and that they will serk karma although they are also very karma-avoidant. Relief is to not give any power to these stunts of nothing, something either has something own or it's nothing.
Unfortunately you just have to accept that berliners will never change. They will never want to ser your point of view or know you so just give up trying and focus your energy on people who are worth it. They will always think they are better no matter how stupid they objectively are. But we have to let go and let them be. Thank god there are things like fun and humour in other countries and that we know they exist. Some of these people literally know nothing else which explains their utter misery.
I had a very typical Berliner Boyfriend.I was so stupid and optimist that he would be changed.But right.He does not want.I left him and I am happier.I am leaving Berlin soon too.Dont waste your time to change this hopeless people.They choose to live in the living hell and now they are enjoying it while they are complaing non stop and non stop saying that they have depression.And they drag other people in the hell too.Sadist and Masochist.
Why do so many bathrooms at shops, restaurants etc have person sitting in there as a cleaner? It seems inhumane. Like I can't imagine anything more depressing than having to sit in a windowless bathroom all day as your job. Let them work shifts and just come in to clean every hour or something, we do that in the US and we get along just fine. Don't make them sit there like prisoners, jesus I always feel so bad. Do they get salaries too or are they just getting the tips? This is a european thing, not just Berlin, but still.
Yes.I thought that too.If there is a proper sitting places(some department store has a Kase and chairs in front of the main entrance as you probabpy saw already)but I saw so many they sat in the corner of the toilet and just sit.I found it in Malta too.Some European thing probabaly.I felt it very uncomfortable to see everytime.
They are always aggressive as hell. Try go to the bathroom at Zoologischer Garten McDonalds BEFORE buying something. If you don’t have a receipt with the code they will act like bouncers of a nightclub. Going to the bathroom is a human thing to do, but they act as if only selected few are entitled to do that luxurious business.
I once felt horribly and I needed the toilet. I was at a Sbahn station with all the shops open. I kindly asked to use the toilet saying that I would buy something first. They all looked at me like I were a druggie and without even considering the possibility that I was just unwell (in the end it was a bad stomach bug). Everyone denied me access to a toilet. This would have never happened in the UK, US, Italy etc. This city is a disgrace.
This is going to be my off my chest post.
I finally came up with the conclusion, why I do feel bad at this country by living here.
Every single thing you could imagine of feels like fake in Germany. People, conversations, discussions, going out, friendship, humanity, working environment, collagues etc do make me feel like, I am dealing with fakeness all the time. I have no intention to settle down here after couple of years spent in this country.
I would like to leave Germany behind me who deserves to live here. I can't cope with this country anymore.
On the bright side, the few who share your/my/our/Berlin hater's views of this city are likely to become close to you. I have met a few people like that and it feels less lonely (they are not German, of course). Be strong, I hope you will manage to get out soon
You’re so right. All fake. their opinions, too, as they try to appear PC but say bad things about any foreigner behind close doors. They don’t trust you easily, but you can’t trust them, either.
I’m still here because I refuse to believe everyone is like that. Also, the nature is beautiful, and life is cheap.
I want to believe not everyone is like that.
Sorry to say but the “art” here is total crap
Hahahah Yes.And their Artist.I am an Artist.And you?working as something?sounds so stupid,boring, a slave of capitalism and idot not knowing what is life and being creative.Arrogant this artits can insparation from only party,drug and sex.Jaja whatever.
I'm a musician and I moved to Berlin in an attempt to make it as a studio musician. Big mistake. After submitting demos and networking as much as possible, I left the city after about 2 years of struggling (mostly financially). It seems to me like Germans don't like it when a foreigner is as capable or even more capable than they are, so they are very unlikely to give you a chance, and they will find bullsh*t excuses to justify it.
If an artist is living in Berlin and likes it, it's not because how successful they have managed to become there. It's because how they are allowed to be as degenerate as they want to be. Art is just an excuse. Actually "art", because most artists I met in Berlin were nothing to write home about. Drug addicts who played an instrument on the side or painted some meaningless stuff every now and then.
The attitude Berliners have: superior, condescending and arrogant does not match the lack of balls when it comes to confrontation.
Weak minded, ignorant and sheep like views.
Congratulations of being socially retarded and the worst of humans that inhabit Earth.
Namaste
Soooo true! They will talk big talk behind your back. But when confronted they become wimpy. Don’t act tough if you never had a fight in your life before. For example, Im actually a tough guy but I’m the nicest person when you meet me. I don’t need to disrespect anybody or walk around like I’m the tough guy. Germans are some low-down backstabbing racist cowards. I literally hate this culture, the people and the language. I should have went to France in the beginning, lol
Guys, I need help. I’m sick of Berlin and Germany, and want to move to a different country with a decent economy but also nice people. I can’t handle weird, rude Germans anymore. What do you propose?
I spent 10 years of my life in Germany, and the last 2 in Berlin. Big mistake.
Now I live in Poland and I am more satisfied with people here.
I'm not even white and people treat me better here than Germans did. I haven't experienced any racism (yet). I speak German very well and yet Germans don't treat me like a human being. They never did.
Great post......you mentioned you lived in other parts of Germany outside of Berlin....Can you tell me is it and the people much different than Berlin? Is its any better or much of the same? Can you tell some about this with some examples I would love to know? Thanks
"Can you tell me is it and the people much different than Berlin? Is its any better or much of the same"
Not OP, but I'll offer my perspective. It's pretty much the same, but with less tattoos, piercings and drugs.
The things people complain about are German traits.
OP: the rest of Germany is better than Berlin, but that German mentality is everywhere. There are some nice and polite germans, but it’s hard to make any friends. Turns out that the ones that were really nice to me wanted something from me. Now that they don’t have anything to gain, they don’t even talk to me anymore. I guess I was the “useful darn foreigner.”
Stay the fornicate away from rest of Germany, east european trash countries, austria and switzerland.
Netherlands is good, UK is good, US is good. People who look down upon US are mouthbreathers who’ve been there only with 20 other morons to share the hostel cost with.
People in Munich is nicer, more like a human. I am being treated well even in ABH Munich, they try to speak with me in English. ABH in Berlin didnt even try and told me "you are in Germany, you should speak German". People smile at you in the street too. Normal human being. It is just more expensive in Munich.
The food here is SO BLAND!! The Berliner palate, it's like they try to make every dish taste as close as possible to wet butterfat. The restaurants and cafes serve pooping bland lukewarm food because they can- 1) Germans have a bland palate that only seems to taste butterfat and brown gravy, 2) tourists are desperate for a place to pee and a sit down for a minute because there are no toilets or benches anywhere, 3) hipster expats just care about a edgy-looking place to smoke and drink overpriced drinks. I have never experienced such a complete lack of tasty food, is this a legacy from wartime rationing or what?
Y'all should be happy about the foreigners and immigrants, because they are bringing some good cuisine this city desperately needs.
I don't understand, German Berliners told me that Berlin has such a free culture, you can be however you want, wear whatever, and nobody judges you. But Germans give off such judgmental vibes, frowning scowling muttering under their breath. And people here dress very much the same, you'll get stared at if you wear anything colorful or different. They said Berlin is open and not racist but I can clearly see racial segregation between rich and poor districts, and the fact that you have to attach your picture to applications for jobs and housing...but Berliners get so offended if I point it out. They say Berlin is so free and open and relaxed compared to other German cities; I say gosh darn I really DON'T want to see those other cities then if this is supposed to be something special
I can't not agree more.So true.Alwwys some black oversized wirh piercing.So hard to tell the different who is who but they think they are fashionable and Uniq and not dumb capitalist.
First of all, that freedom is only prevalent amongst other ex-pats and wacky Germans within a small community. The rest of Berlin is poor white trash, racist close minded people. You go to the party areas and everything is fine. But when you live in other areas of Berlin then you see the real Berlin. Berliners are still Nazis at heart they really don't like foreigners at all...white or black. If you look around all these People have mental problems.....all of them! Look how the walk around muttering to themselves.
the dark, short days and constant gray skies. I am forgetting what it feels like to feel alive. I don't remember how it feels to have pure blue skies and yellow sun over my head but I remind myself that in many places on the globe people are actually experiencing it
Are there any ambitious Germans in this city? This society feels like it needs to crush any kind of thinking outside the box.
Germany or Brexit Britain? Which is looking more attractive now?Is it still worth moving to UK? What's the concensus?
I moved back the first week after the referendum result. Here's my take (I'm a remainer):
- No one bats an eyelid if you mispronounce a word or get a gender wrong (we don't have that male genitalia anyway).
- The UK likes an underdog. I only noticed this when I came back. I tell the story my life story and most are like "f*ck yes, darn it do it" obviously not the American style of "you can do everything" but not the German "absolutely don't consider it" it's a realistic medium. This really got me out of the rut I found myself in whilst I lived in Berlin. This for me is the most important part. If I was born in Germany, I'd be a shop assistant. In the UK I work as an engineer at a FAANG. I was in most of the remedial classes at school. My friends/family pushed me. In Germany they only insulted me.
- Go to London and bust your arse, you can achieve.
- Foreigner friendly. Half my friends are not from the UK and I love them just as much as my mates I grew up with (sometimes more, they were egging me on to do better). Their english sucks but darn it, they're here making a better life for themselves and their families and I respect them for that. I will never correct them on their pronunciation and I'm incredibly proud they've made the effort). In Germany you'll always be a foreigner and they'll hate you. There is a tiny minority in England who do hate foreigners but most of them have never lived in multicultural areas. Berlin is currently in this phase. During my time in Berlin, I was seeing a non caucasian and I'd get stares which made me feel uncomfortable. I'm not saying the UK is perfect but it is at least 20 years ahead.
Yes, the UK has problems. A lot of us left because the rents/mortgage are high. In hindsight, It's high for a darn good reason, the country is gold in comparison. The weather sucks but god darn the people, the music, the opportunity. I would give my left nut to come here as a 3rd world migrant.
Born Slippy, Polynomial C... only could've come from our crap weather as well. Sorry but Sven Vath and Hard Wax is laughable in comparison. I'll ignore the classics such as the Beatles etc because it's probably not relevant to most people on this site but culturally the UK is in a different league.
I do miss parts of Germany but not Berlin. The techno zombies can have it.
Berlin was actually actually fun before 2010. I think Brexit if it causes a decline ma
I don't mind Germany as a whole but I feel the UK even with Brexit is something I'm pro
Sorry my last paragraph is jibberish. The text box is tiny.
Basically Brexit may cause a financial decline but you may find certain areas become the pre 2010 Berlin. Shout out to Glasgow, Birmingham etc. We laughed at these places and last time I went, I had a blast.
TL;DR Brexit UK is still x100 better than Berlin.
Im also a fellow Brit.....and I couldnt agree with you more.....I lived in Berlin and I totally agree with all you say......The people are narrow minded and quite ignorant and yes even as a white person I also got odd stares that made me feel like I was a cast member of a Jew being shunned in Nazis Germany....the people still have a bad and similar attitude to Auslanders......and yes I agree we will never be accepted fully or get top positions regardless of our ability skills.......etc. The place that I thought I would love became a place a actually detested. AS for other parts of Germany I also lived and its not as bad as Berlin but the same things and atitudes still exist throughout the country as a whole.....I came across suspicion from people from all over despite meetings a few nice people and friends but I mean only 3 but the rest you could tell just had the similar approach as Berliners do to us.......maybe just not quite as bad and obvious. All I grew up hearing about how Germany is some kinda efficient and intelligent people.....with good logic - its totally BS I came to realise.....its more like following a strict road plan blueprint....way of thinking with no real original thought and nobody can think outside the box.......and efficiency....sorry I didnt come across much .....the governmental people are robots and exactly like the cast of little Britain and customer service is horrendous......they do not think for themselves and follow a herd like mentality of ignorance.....No suprising why Facism and communism took over so well.....its made for people of this mindset......and frankly its alarming as I now believe such things with people like these - it can and might just happen again......I recently came back to London and live in Surrey and can say its a delight and really felt like a breath of fresh air....things were clean, the weather mild even in winter and things worked for the most part and people actually smiled and said sorry if in the wrong......I used to put down the UK thinking it was crap before I left but now I can see that its a pretty darn good place and I will never look down on it ever again.....
These freaking Arabs they have working for Amazon now can't even find an address that is easy as fuck... literally on corner of street with a spati downstairs... then I have to waste another morning waiting for these retards? Stupid butt country
The graffiti is immature like this entire city
Dating Germans in Berlin... Need I say more? Please share your experiences so that we can have a laugh together
OP here: I’ve had so many experiences they’d fill a book. In fact I’m pondering over writing one. Fazit of my experiences: don’t bother, unless they’ve spent time in at least one different country. Entitled, mostly spoiled, can’t communicate, they’re always right, except when they’re not but it’s your fault, hold grudges, can’t understand irony... there are exceptions, but they either spent much time in another country or they’ve actually finished their university studies on time.
Believe me, I tried. Too hard.
A German ex of mine told me tha her ex-boyfriend destroyed her piano with an axe and I thought "what a psycho". After six months with her, I completely understood his frustration boiling over. Whatever you do, DON'T date them, male or female, go MGTOW to save your sanity, and in particular, stay away from Feminists. These wonderful women would agree with me wholeheartedly. realequalitywomen.com
Further to my comment re tandem lessons. I sensed a mutual attraction between myself and this woman but I felt like I was having to justify myself all of the time. Although she was somewhat nicer that most people you'll encounter in this city, she had many of their traits.
"You spend too much energy talking to them, and you get absolutely nothing in return..." This comment, 100%. It's like, imagine talking to someone who just doesn't "get it," similar to a mentally retarded person. Except, the mentally retarded person is less annoying and less headache-inducing to talk to. You basically have the same convos with Germans over and over when you date them, and they make excuses constantly. Or, you ask them to do something, and they make excuses constantly. Just get it done lol.
“I felt like I was having to justify myself all of the time”. This. THIS. With every single German girl I dated. Always asking myself whether I said or did something wrong, always trying to understand why they became annoyed. Took me a long time to realize that it was THEIR problem, not mine. Btw I’m also a girl, but straight German girls are just as awful
In 2 years of living and dating in Berlin, the only girls I could connect with were girls who just arrived in Berlin or who were visiting the city. Most dates with girls that have been in the city for a long time were mostly terrible (with a few exceptions). Seems like staying in Berlin for too long makes you undateable
I stayed here in Berlin for 2.5 years and after meeting so many wierd guys I stop dating germans.They always texting from Morning to night but never actually want to have a date properly because they are depressed,so many things to do from work and study(Come on.I am working too),always complaining this and that...Oh no...But I know that Berliners have more mental problems and desperate to have casual sex as many as they can ubder the name of blalba sexual and Open relationship.But no one is that hot.So many my colleagues are cheating aorund.Only thing makes Berliner exciting is disgusting sex at the dirty club or dirty WG.I would not want any of this smelly,poor,old enough but still mental age 14 guys.
the "relationships" with the Germans just trigger the whole poop out of you, the whole mental things you have in you, but didnt want to accept it. Thats why this experience is useful. Please, stay strong, relay on your friends (i hope you have them in Berlin) and escape the city a.s.a.p.