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Is it worth it to learn German? Currently at beginner level and dedicating some time each day, but recently, been attracted to Spanish and really feel for that language instead.
When you're out doing your grocery shopping or riding on the subway look around and ask yourself if you really want to know what these savages are mumbling about you. Nothing good really comes from understanding Germans and being able to communicate with them. And even if you try really hard, work for years, and speak at near-native level, they'll still never accept you as an equal. You'll always just be nothing more than a foreigner, the butt of every recycled joke about your nationality they can think up. Add to that the fact that German is important only in Europe, and even here it's less important than French. No, don't waste your time on German unless you plan to live here for the rest of your life and even then, consider finding a job in a company where English is sufficient as there are plenty..
German isn't a very precise language at all. No one is impressed by the fact that you have declinations that make is marginally easier to decipher, in unnecessarily long sentences, what the subjects and predicates are. Plus there are tons of verbs that have multiple meanings, sometimes quite literally opposite meanings. Germans THINK that their mother tongue is very precise because, and this is a revelation for Germans I am sure, it is the language they know best. The French also THOUGHT their language most closely mimicked natural thought. Certainly doesn't make it true. Just means your country is full of nationalists who are always trying to identify non-controversial channels for expressing their patriotism.
Browsing books about body changes for my 7 year old and came across this gem, which is a bestseller on Amazon:
Mein erstes Aufklärungsbuch: Aufklärung für Kinder ab 5
Has drawings of a guy with an erection, says that boys like it when you rub it, describes in detail sex, orgasms, etc. Targeted at 6 year olds. Bestseller.
No wonder this country is so broken up.
Sorry, falling down the rabbit hole of German book that explain sex to kids now. Look at the reviews for this one:
Das bin ich - von Kopf bis Fuß: Selbstvertrauen und Aufklärung für Kinder ab 7
"Svenjas Scheide wird feucht und warm und Marcos male genitalia ganz steif. Marco schiebt seinen male genitalia dann ins Svenjas Scheide. Immer auf und ab. Das ist für die beiden ein ganz tolles Gefühl. Wenn das Gefühl am schönsten ist, spritzt Samen aus Marcos male genitalia in Svenjas Scheide."
Holy hell no wonder no one in this country is having sex.
I am making job applications soon. Wish me good luck for getting out of this dumpstore.
so this is my personal biased list based on my 4 years experience in bln. There are of course postive aspects (architecture, culture, events), but those were unfortunately not meaningful enough to keep my sanity intact:
1.stagnation - on every possible level
2. striving for coolness while being just painfully lame
3. groupthink. especially german groupthink.
4. an overall, general negative state of mind
5. stress used as a way to enhance productivity at the workplace, which leads nr...
6. low level of interpersonal /social intelligence
7. in-group biases, hidden racism, stereotyping
8. anticapitalism used as an excuse to practice irresponsibility
9. germans feeling of superiority, know it all, and general infallible attitude ( in all social classes, ups. not allowed to use that term, that brings me to nr. 10
10. ridiculous use of political correctness when considering nr. 6&7
11.hostility, agression, bullying behaviour
12. inflexible job market due to specific group personality traits
13. environment protection as the only belief system
14. no true international feeling that shapes the city except tourism and maybe some startups, and no, I don't count the + 300 galleries, that's another story.
15. anti-technology mindset
16. lack of savoir vivre, search for bargains
OP. - I guess it's up to everyone to experience their share of misery. People have a hard time to believe YOU, a biased individual, versus all the media praising and marketing - you don't have a chance against, that's why don't EVEN bother. My doctor from bln said she deals all the time with depressed patients, and she suggested me actually to leave the city instead of taking pills. It would be interesting to see a statistic regarding mental health issues, scientific, OBEJECTIVE medical evaluation not by berlin "standards"- but hey, that would affect the berlins reputation and the money it brings.
"My doctor from bln said she deals all the time with depressed patients, and she suggested me actually to leave the city instead of taking pills. " pahahhahaahahahhaahha! hilare! She is right.... and the problem is that Berlin markets itself as a "hip, artistic, forward - thinking haven" ...this is a complete LIE.... which is why its good that this website exists.... most people end up investing in moving there and are trapped financially and cannot leave...-I personally left with DEBT which I am leaving in GERMANY after being ripped off by landlors, taxman, employers .... fornicate Berlin and fornicate Germany .... a horrible country on its way out.....
Add to your list a compulsive aversion to any problem-solving mindset. It's really incredible the lengths to which Germans will go to avoid fixing the most glaringly obvious problems in their day-to-day lives and instead just try to ignore everything that bothers them.
Everyone from the US or so calls itself an EXPAT here, but when it comes to other nationalities, they are immigrants. Oh, pleaaaase... Berline filthy bunch of arrogants phonies!
Negative conotation of wording. “Immigrant” sounds like a lower life form when “Expat” is somehow respectable. Some labels used... that’s all. Ignorance and racism at their best. You can be a idiot with fried brain on drugs, but called an “Expat” if you come from an Western background. If you’re a smart, educated professional that actually brings added value to this poophole you’re called an “Immigrant” if you come from different background, maybe Eastern or something else. Nothing too deep :)
its called RACISM...GERMANS have proven throughout history that they uncultured, stupid, aggressive ...pricks, these days they will pick on your ethnicity regardless of what contribute to their stupid disgusting ...country leave.......best to leave while you can....
To be honest, the average German doesn't even know the word expat. I have never once in almost 10 years been called an expat by a German, just a foreigner or "Ausländer". And I honestly don't really care what these cucks think of me. And, by the way, I'm the most American person in Berlin.
I think many just don't know how to express it properly. "Im Ausland Lebender" just doesn't appear so easily. In a way the word Ausländer isn't really bad. It just always connotated with the word raus, it's got this get out of here thing about it. And even that in itself is not a bad thing because it's at least not directly too healthy for a nation when things are all over the place and many other countries simply don't do it like that. They just came from a different pov where the get out thing is more connected to their own well being. It's a lot about not expressing things the right way.
why is this site transforming a word like 't'wat' into 'female genitals' and 'douc'hebag' into 'idiot' when I'm posting?
What's your experience in dating here? I was doing fairly well with girls before moving to this city, but now I feel like as long as you don't fit to the Berlin-hipster-stereotype who dresses like a total idiot and works for some soon-to-fail start-up or some wannabe artist or musician, the dating-scene is just a huge mess here. In four month I was only dating two girls, both of them very average-looking, annoyingly feminist (I'm certainly not anti-feminist, but it just pisses me off when 80% of your conversation is about how unfair the world is towards women as if I don't have any problems as a male). Besides that...most dates I had here where just terribly boring, cold/arrogant attitude of German women is just very weird. I'm starting to question myself and loosing my self-confidence. Anyone here who has made similar experiences? (I'm German btw but lived mostly abroad in recent years until I moved to this idiot to start a new job)
Same for normal females. I'm a cute looking, chicly dressed brunette.
1. German males also wear some piercings?!?
2. They wear red trousers, stupid hats which they think "hip" but looks totally stupid
3. Impossible to find a normal men in this city. I'm thinking of moving to Munich/Zurich/London/Dublin
Same experience, bro.
Oh, hold on. You’re exactly the stuckup type of girl that makes dating a disaster around here, I get it now. Good luck in being classy, cute, having self esteem and whatever while still being single. Now on a kindly note: Try leveling it down, it’s shadowing your (maybe a bit delusional) charm you think you have.
True. Even if someone is good looking, the moment flies out of their mouths on a serious note things like I am cute, I am smart they instantly get ugly/stupid to me. Maybe I am a weirdo for finding modesty graceful, but that’s exactly why I despise about German girls. They think too highly of themselves.
I know what you mean, that is what makes Feminists ugly. GRRL POWER :o((( They could do us all a favour and STFU once in a while, people give about as much of a rat's butt about their wonderful careers, as they do about their father's careers, most of them wouldn't even know what he does for a living and how many sacrifices he made to send these egoistic cvnts to universities to be brainwashed by men-hating Feminists at Women's Studies courses. Proud to be MGTOW.
Imagining this German cuck sitting in front of his computer, baseball cap perched perfectly on his head and proudly displaying the intact authenticity sticker, bespectacled with lenses in excess of 5mm with thick frames. Pale because of 100 generations of an average of 10 minutes of sunshine per day. Drinking a club mate and eating a dry kaiser roll. And thinking to himself: "this woman would be lucky to get my German DNA"
To the op - but if you're not one of the loser guys you just described, i.e. that you've got a job, are normally dressed, and are not socially awkward, you must have tons of good girls running after you. I mean there is a serious shortage of normal men here. Seriously, where do you look for girls? Socialist bars in Kreuzberg? Parties in WGs for lame 30somethings?
To the comment above: there's even bigger scarcity of normal girls here. Either you have ugly feminist bastards who shower once a week and constantly complain about patriarchy, Trump, AFD, corporations, capitalism etc. Or you have somethimes good looking but stupid AF girls who hang out with Arabs in them red sneakers, sniff cheap coke or speed every day and think that they're "bad bitches". That's why.
I argue that the scarcity of normal girls is a result of the stupidity of men here. In other countries, men make women compliments, smile at them, flirt with them. In Germany the cheap butt clowns can't even invite you for a drink since 'they don't want to buy you'. Imagine you are a girl and nobody asks you out, the only thing you get are creepy stares - from both German and MENA men. When you try to flirt the guy is usually overwhelmed and either starts screaming or babbling some incomprehensive stuff.
Bwitch, what if I tell you there’s more than one here that thinks you stink? Shocking? Acting all head in awss and thinking ya pwussy is made of gold of something. Do genital shrooms have this side effect or something?
PS: I’ll stop if you stop. Dunno about the others. HAHA.
PPS: Bet you are cute as a baboon awss anyway.
HAHA x2
Until about a week or two ago I had never even heard the term MGTOW. Read about it here first, then saw a guy post about an MGTOW Berlin group on facebook in the Americans in Berlin group. Both here and there a bunch of people started attacking the person talking about it for no apparent reason. Even though women routinely post links to events for women's defense events (which is laughable, a 120 lbs woman will never be able to defend herself against a man twice her size), people immediately attacked the poster for excluding women, being a misogynist, being a loser without a girlfriend, etc. I would much rather be an MGTOW adherent than a Berlin scummy leftist that much is 100% sure. Amazing how quickly the women revert to supporting the "patriarchy" when they fear that their most likely way to achieve social mobility - by marrying a successful man - is quickly becoming impossible.
Sure, keep telling yourself you have high standards and have this massive pool of women to reject while pointlessly being a penis to people, that's! how you get through life and attract the women you really want to be with you dorky betas. This choosey beggars talk is so laughable and the bitterness is so obvious and sweet, keep doubling down on being dickheads for our amusement.
I am neither a MGTOW nor an incel, but the lengths to which the detractors here in the comments will go to show their disapproval is enlightening. People are amazed when men won't settle for inferior genes, upbringing and culture? This whole thing smacks so blatantly of pedestrian comtinental Europe where men will fornicate with anything that moves. If that implies butthurtedness then I would imagine the whole world outside of the Dark Ages is liberally applying prep H.
What are you rambling about ? Nobody cares if you're an incel or whatever, adds absolutely nothing to what you're saying since you can't prove it anyway. Calling someone a cun_t, stupid, bit_CH etc. and to go away like a reflex implies the butthurt. It's really not that hard to understand besides the absurd amount of strawmanning going on.
It's also quite telling that someone who talks about inferior genes and culture would leap to their defense and talk like an incel, lol
Sorry, but what words should I use to refer to a society that has excessively high alcohol-related deaths, extreme poverty, lax laws against sexual harassment/assault, a low standard of living, forced collectivist group-think and which promotes racism and sexism as long as it is focused on white males? Only a country of inferior genes would give this idiocy the chance to take hold.
What's your experience in dating here? I was doing fairly well with girls before moving to this city, but now I feel like as long as you don't fit to the Berlin-hipster-stereotype who dresses like a total female genitals and works for some soon-to-fail start-up or some wannabe artist or musician, the dating-scene is just a huge mess here. In four month I was only dating two girls, both of them very average-looking, annoyingly feminist (I'm certainly not anti-feminist, but it just pisses me off when 80% of your conversation is about how unfair the world is towards women as if I don't have any problems as a male). Besides that...most dates I had here where just terribly boring, cold/arrogant attitude of German women is just very weird. I'm starting to question myself and loosing my self-confidence. Anyone here who has made similar experiences? (I'm German btw but lived mostly abroad in recent years until I moved to this idiot to start a new job)
Seems like most German men these days are happy dating non-German women. But be weary of the Western European leftist mentality (that has also infiltrated the US and Canada, unfortunately). Don't feel discouraged. As a woman who was flirted with often back home, the men here (regardless of ethnicity) seem to operate on a primal level and be losers.
German women are disgusting. They are extremely stupid, even the so called educated ones. It’s like they have no brain of their own to think with. Confident in their looks, but most of them lack all sense of feminity, grace and sexiness. Ugly, big female dogs mostly. No taste in the way they dress, no care for their looks whatsoever, just repulsive. They put it on the feminist beliefs, but truth is they’re unattractive and unappealing to begin with. Also, big sluts but not even worth it. There’s no passion in their bones to blow your mind in bed or something. Pathetic. No wonder this city is super gay.
Which one of you created the MGTOW Berlin facebook group?
Does anyone know about visa ?
I got married with a German passport holder man last Summer in Berlin , but I escaped that could not hold to live in Berlin as you all described its like a hell in many ways, Before my mental got sick I decided to leave.
I m going to Spain this April , then we decided to get divorce but it will be admitted in one year after the court.
The question is I got 3 years visa only allowed to work in Germany aka hell, but legally I could stay in Spain ,
whats gonna be my visa after get divorced ? 3 years visa will be expired the time the divorce will be accepted?
It would be great if anybody knows about it. thanks.
Hello, good afternoon, lovely Berlin Haters!
Does anyone know if German debt (i.e. lawsuit from private universities, unpaid expenses, whatever the case may be) follow you to other EU countries? For example, does a poor SCHUFA prohibit you from having a healthy credit score in other EU nations? My US credit score is in the excellent range, and would like to know this because I'm truly unhappy in this hellhole and want to leave as soon as possible before my mental health deteriorates further. fornicate this hellhole.
I was thinking the other day, this place is pathetic. These people really aren't ready for immigration, I really do feel like this was forced upon them. The women here, what's wrong with them? And this is a legit question, really what is wrong with the women here? I've never seen women become instantly jealous and hateful when they see another woman who looks better than them. The women behave like they have never been around another man before, WTF! Even flirting is a big deal that they take to heart. Just because I'm flirting with you doesn't mean I want you. They don't smile, they two-faced, they have nasty attitudes, flaky as fuck, and I don't care if you have boobs and butt if you have no personality than be gone, nasty witch. I don't think they know how to be a true friend to a male without having him as a "friend with benefits." The German men here are just stupid as fornicate and have no charm but then again how can you when the women are the same. You ever wonder why so many relationships with Germans fail with foreigners? Because they try to project (insecurities) that stupid poop onto men/women who ain't from here and that's where the conflict comes in. I honestly do believe that Germans should be with Germans and friends included. People should stop coming to this place and let's see how this country does then. And I mean international companies and trade as well. You can't benefit from exported companies but you don't really want foreigners-you can't have it both ways. All they do is stare at people that's all they do! You ever been around a group of Germans? One hundred people all at once in sync heads turning looking around like the police is after them, it's the funniest and weirdest thing to see. I can always tell the foreigners in the crowd because they are the ones not looking around at everybody. And another thing, I wish they would stop saying they are cool. You ain't cool these people are some goddam nerds. I'll say this, tell me if anyone understands this and this will describe our situation in Berlin/Germany. If a cool person walks into a room full weirdos and nerds then it doesn't matter how cool he is compared to them he then becomes the nerd. You figure that one out and you will understand your situation here is this poop hole place.
All Germans in public are like the middle eastern guy in this video
www.youtube.com/watch
Why do young German men always seem to be so afraid? They are the most privileged group in this country. They are preferred for jobs and housing. There is no mandatory military service here and prostitution is legal. It seems to be the women's job to flirt and hit on the other sex as German men don't seem capable of doing it. The only thing they've got to do is not getting beat up by MENA men.
They either have a) this fearful but yet aggressive look in their eyes or b) seem to think they are young Werther and think they suffer the most from the world's problems.
Honestly, I think German "flirting" culture has historically been painfully obtuse and cringeworthy. The older generation (people 50+) grew up with knuckle-dragging courtship rituals that would land you in prison in a civilized country. Flirting requires at least a little wit, charm and intelligent which is severely lacking in this country. Look at any German comedy sketches, such as this one: www.youtube.com/watch
I think over the past decade there has been some pushback, some deserved and some exaggerated, spearheaded by the feminists. The #aufschrei fiasco showed a lot of people that there's still a lot of belly scratchers in this country that think forcefully fondling women and flashing your privates isn't flirting, it's sexual abuse. And I think a lot of guys realized that they can't pick women up that way. It seems to me that almost all males here, and especially those from east germany, suffer from avoidant personality disorder. They cannot take any criticism whatsoever. Flirting makes you vulnerable, and when society finally removed just throwing yourself at someone these losers haven't found a way to cope. Also seems like almost all families here are split up. Growing up without a role model or, worse still, with a revolving cast of potential step fathers, really messes with young men's heads. Also consider the likelihood of early childhood exposure to lead via the country's painfully antiquated water delivery system. Then look at statistics about toxoplasmosis symptoms and occurrence in this part of the world where raw meat on bread is considered haute cuisine. Finally, and I think this is a big one, the wages in this country and especially in Berlin are a gigantic joke. Men know they can never take the natural dominant role with the wages they earn and going dutch is extremely common here. Every man who doesn't earn good money, at least deep down inside, feels like a failure and that translates into clumsiness with the ladies.
And generally, I have never seen a society that treats men, especially young men, as so extremely worthless as German society. Men here know they aren't desirable, it's why they don't make the effort to dress nicely, wear appropriate clothing or even simply not pee in public in broad daylight. The guys know there is some formula to get a girl, but they know that to solve it they need skills they will never have. Carry out an informal survey of all the German couples you know and you'll soon realize that 100% of them got together while they were inebriated. It's the only time these automatons can let down their shields long enough to form even a weak bond.
One question - what brought you to the conclusion that society treats men, especially young men, as so extremely worthless? That's a legit question.
I think they are over privileged and therefore lack drive and passion. In theory, they don't have to be desirable because they successfully legalized prostitution.
I would say women have many more reasons to feel inferior here - that's why there is a backlash in the form of dressing down, no makeup, always compete with other women, and so on.
Make no mistake: I hate the average nose-picking autist German male in this city. They deserve all the blame for turning out to be pathetic losers incapable of real human emotions. But it's incredible how terrible almost all German mothers I have ever met are.
They are concerned solely with signalling that they're great mothers (openly breastfeeding in public, changing children's diapers IN(!) restaurants, whining whenever possible about how terrible it is that the state doesn't immediately assume full control of the child's life after birth, celebrating themselves for bravely returning to a part-time job that was reserved for them for 2 years while they stuck their kids in daycare and stuffed their mouths with pork all day). Every adult is responsible for him or herself, but German motherhood certainly isn't compatible with a loving parental relationship as seen in ANY other civilized country.
Here's the messiah of scumbag Lefties, their (CBO) Chief Brainwashing Officer. Of course this is just the tip of the iceberg www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2913625/Billionaire-George-Soros-spent-33MILLION-bankrolling-Ferguson-demonstrators-create-echo-chamber-drive-national-protests.html
Why does everyone on this site hate George Soros?
Weirdo loser :o) are you holding a mirror :o))) My guess is by your vacant reply, you are the weirdo loser, who is probably getting his indoctrination from decrepit George Soros. I have a life that you scummy little squat rats would only dream of, in short, I'm very happy and productive, not miserable and destructive. Go back to your worm cellar and spend the rest of the day masturbating over Soros photos. Pee-ew!!!!!!