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Since LEAVING Berlin and Germany I have observed:
- ppl smiling
- ppl acting courteously and polite
this shows you how broken up Berlin and Berliners are....
Found this community by chance, great banter! (besides the alt-right morons here, jsut stfu and get a life). Not sure if it was good to have found this site here though. One one hand it makes me feel better that I'm not the only person who feels like this about this city, I thought something must be wrong with me. On the other hand it's certainly not helpful to improve my situation in this city reading all that stuff here which enhances my hate (and I'm kind of trapped here at the moment because of my job, just moved here recently to start a new job after graduating and I'm too broke to move somewhere else as long as don't find another job in another city). Any thoughts on this?
Reading this website is definitely toxic when you're helplessly stuck in this shit-hole. I discovered this webpage about a year and a half ago and have gone through several episodes of compulsively checking it about 100 times per day. It has made me realize that I hate Berliners/Germans and the typical dewy-eyed expat losers who end up here. But it's also made me realize that I have no future here and that I need to get out as soon as I can afford it. Good luck.
I feel your pain - I went through alot of poop in Berlin before managing to flee that cesspit - everyone here talks about not having money to leave - take a freaking LOAN and just split! That is what I did and I have no regrets - when your mental health is on the line its a good time to see what you are willing to do to escape hell....and Berlin is hell....utter hell.....
"besides the alt-right morons here, jsut stfu and get a life" - may have been one or two guys. Surprisingly, I don't see any of his/their posts on the front page for once. Maybe he actually got a job, life, friends, or a gf. Congrats if so, hopefully he's able to get over the obsession or better mentally.
What a bunch of retards.
qz.com/1215370/hsbc-expat-survey-berlin-tops-the-global-charts-for-culture
"Berlin’s expats weren’t in the top ten for annual gross personal income either (total income from all sources, including wages, salaries, or rents and before tax deductions). The city came 43rd out of 52, with an average expat salary of $84,162, quite a bit under the global average of $99,903." Are we talking about Berlin, Germany here???? $84,162 = ~€68,253!!!!! How many expats in Berlin are earning even close to that??!!!
I'm fed being a foreigner in Germany.
I hate communicating with the poop insurance company.
I hate the poop foreigner's office, full of stupid and incompetent housewives.
I hate it's so difficult to live as a foreigner.
I’m thinking about moving to Düsseldorf for work and a change of environment. It would be nice to know anyone’s honest opinion on the city and the area in general.
Once again and clearly: all German cities are sad shitholes. Yes, the salaries are higher than in Berlin and there're less violent left-wing subhumans, but the general vibe of hopelessness, boredom, coldness, maniacal following ZE RULES is pretty the same.
"Munich absolutely suck. It's a boring village with prices compared to London or NY."
Yeah, it's sort of an anti-Berlin. Way too conservative, expensive, and boring. Some people prefer that though. Think Hamburg is a decent in between point, not as rough around the edges as Berlin nor as conservative as Munich. Leipzig is Berlin minus the expats, tourists, and hype but also less going on and not a great job market, especially if you can't speak German fluently. That said, it seems to have more momentum behind it and it may turn out to be a pretty decent place to live.
The only thing I'll miss about Berlin is BerlinHater.com Bye everyone, next Monday I'm releasing myself from the lunatic asylum. I wish you all the best of luck here, you'll need lots of it, because hard work and living frugally will get you nowhere here, probably just into more debt or more borrowed money from your parents if you are a hipster trust-fund baby :o((((( Auf Wiedersehn.
You have children? Do you know the situation when you go to the playground with your children in Berlin and the other children refuse to play with your kids? The Berlin children play only with their parents, or with their siblings, but not with other children! When I go with my little son in Berlin on a children's playground, no one is ever going to be there with us. Parents of German children are sure to be afraid that their children will not harm something bad. That's why local kids only play with who they know! Poor Berliners. We moved to Berlin from Prague and we hate it here! This summer we want to move out of here.
Lol, the anti-social behavior starts early. You have to remember small kids behavior patterns are influenced by their surroundings. If kid sees mama and daddy never speak to strangers or people they know then kids will behave the same. I have a kid as well, I try not to judge Kids on their stupid-ass parents. At my kids daycare, I speak more with the kids than the parents. I can’t stand the parents here in Berlin they are so fake in the way how they interact with their child in public. It’s like they are trying to prove to their follow Germans they are a good parent. There’s noting like the all important German approval. God!!! These people make me sick to my freaking stomach.
As a woman I dislike Berliner women. Either them being Germans or other nationalities living in Berlin and getting the virus. Jelous, mean and completely anti other females. It’s like a constant competition for something. They need to outshine the others one at any point. Antisocial and a lot more rude than men. And it’s not like everyone guy I talk to flirts with me. Some are happily inlove with their partners and open to me while their girlfriends give me the I-am-going-to-murder-you-in-your-sleep look. Disturbing and paradoxically they preach so much the girl power.
I've got a theory. This is still an inheritance from the Second World War. There, I said it.
After the war there was a massive shortage of men. This resulted in women having to compete for men constantly. And this was passed on from generation to generation and as a result we have this weird culture here now.
not only WW2 but WW1 , Germany took 2 million men killed 1914-1918 add in 5 million (proven unlike other similar large numbers) killed in WW2 created "girl power" sisterhood feminism...but underneath that was a brutal female competition for the few healthy eligible men
You sound so judgemental and arrogant that it sounds like you have a problem.
Women don't hate each other.
They're not anti female. They are just cliquish. Also, like most women everywhere they are just insecure af.
You probably were not friendly to them and just focused on communicating with their bf.
Maybe you are just a slutty flirt who judges other women. Why should I like you if you flirt openly with my husband while ignoring me completely?
And you are not judgmental at all.
:) I had a few experiences with women that got me to this conclusion. I tried my best to befriend women as I always enjoyed my cluster of girls wherever I was on this planet. But here it is very hard to find open people to resonante with. I have a boyfriend, I am not interested in other men.
Being open to know people and make friends means you are a sexually popular woman nowadays? Interesting :)
A couple years ago I use to work in a hotel. We had a few girls come here from other European countries. I remember they would always come to me and talk about how some of the Germans girls were rude and nasty. SMDD! I’m not being mean, but if I was single it would be a problem. Why? For me I wouldn’t date any girl from this city. These girls have mental problems they need to sort out. For boys, all you need is titties and a va-jay-jay and they will date ya. For men, you need personality, humor, genuine smile and a warm heart. No wonder there is so many women here in Berlin over thirty and single. freaking Euro trash. These people are The Jersey Shore of Europe.
Yes OP, I am judgemental towards YOU because you sound so full of yourself and careless to generalize all women based on a FEW experiences.
You really sound like you are projecting your insecurities on other women.
Learn how to express yourself without sounding like a flirt. "men open to me"...
Look at it from a purely logical standpoint. Which is statistically more likely – that you’re a special magical unicorn of womanhood who is pure and non-bitchy and all other women in berlin are anti social and jealous hags?
Or that it’s your own fault that women don’t like you?
If your experience of women is that they are dramatic and mean and backstabbing, maybe it’s because you were a problem and they reacted to you.
I LOLed. Not to worry, you don’t have to like me and viceversa. I am not a big fan of bitchcraft, but I don’t pose as a saint either. It takes a few cases to make a somehow light general statement. Look at this now: we did not met ever or been around each other and you’re fast to jump at my neck that I am DEFINITELY a flirt. Why should I change my opinion when all you do is actually proving that I am right about women against other women here. See the paradox?
I am not sure what’s your story, but you seem the insecure one here as I was only saying that men are easier to befriend than women. Open in a sense of having fun when playing boardgames and laugh from time to time without being a-holes towards anyone. Get it?
Put your claws back and keep them clenching on your man, miss three-posts-above. Word of advice: Maybe try dating a real man. This one is turning you into an insecure desperate woman. When you start concering about these so called slutty flirts orbitating near your man, the problem is him, not them. Is he allowed to have female coworkers? God forbid the cracks a joke at lunch with those horrible whores
Read on reddit:
"Many Germans are not aware of how they are. They think that the "mean cold Germans" are somebody else. They don't see that they never smile while walking down the street. They don't recognize that they are rude to customers at their job. They don't see it as in their job description to be nice. They don't see that treating customers/clients nice is good for business...because in Germany it isn't. Most companies are not dependent on customer satisfactions, because a rudely treated customer still comes back. A rude salesperson in other countries would be fired or at the least earn less money through lower sales/commissions. German workers with direct customer contact have no motivation to treat you decently...so they don't."
Is it worth it to learn German? Currently at beginner level and dedicating some time each day, but recently, been attracted to Spanish and really feel for that language instead.
When you're out doing your grocery shopping or riding on the subway look around and ask yourself if you really want to know what these savages are mumbling about you. Nothing good really comes from understanding Germans and being able to communicate with them. And even if you try really hard, work for years, and speak at near-native level, they'll still never accept you as an equal. You'll always just be nothing more than a foreigner, the butt of every recycled joke about your nationality they can think up. Add to that the fact that German is important only in Europe, and even here it's less important than French. No, don't waste your time on German unless you plan to live here for the rest of your life and even then, consider finding a job in a company where English is sufficient as there are plenty..
German isn't a very precise language at all. No one is impressed by the fact that you have declinations that make is marginally easier to decipher, in unnecessarily long sentences, what the subjects and predicates are. Plus there are tons of verbs that have multiple meanings, sometimes quite literally opposite meanings. Germans THINK that their mother tongue is very precise because, and this is a revelation for Germans I am sure, it is the language they know best. The French also THOUGHT their language most closely mimicked natural thought. Certainly doesn't make it true. Just means your country is full of nationalists who are always trying to identify non-controversial channels for expressing their patriotism.
Browsing books about body changes for my 7 year old and came across this gem, which is a bestseller on Amazon:
Mein erstes Aufklärungsbuch: Aufklärung für Kinder ab 5
Has drawings of a guy with an erection, says that boys like it when you rub it, describes in detail sex, orgasms, etc. Targeted at 6 year olds. Bestseller.
No wonder this country is so broken up.
Sorry, falling down the rabbit hole of German book that explain sex to kids now. Look at the reviews for this one:
Das bin ich - von Kopf bis Fuß: Selbstvertrauen und Aufklärung für Kinder ab 7
"Svenjas Scheide wird feucht und warm und Marcos male genitalia ganz steif. Marco schiebt seinen male genitalia dann ins Svenjas Scheide. Immer auf und ab. Das ist für die beiden ein ganz tolles Gefühl. Wenn das Gefühl am schönsten ist, spritzt Samen aus Marcos male genitalia in Svenjas Scheide."
Holy hell no wonder no one in this country is having sex.
I am making job applications soon. Wish me good luck for getting out of this dumpstore.
so this is my personal biased list based on my 4 years experience in bln. There are of course postive aspects (architecture, culture, events), but those were unfortunately not meaningful enough to keep my sanity intact:
1.stagnation - on every possible level
2. striving for coolness while being just painfully lame
3. groupthink. especially german groupthink.
4. an overall, general negative state of mind
5. stress used as a way to enhance productivity at the workplace, which leads nr...
6. low level of interpersonal /social intelligence
7. in-group biases, hidden racism, stereotyping
8. anticapitalism used as an excuse to practice irresponsibility
9. germans feeling of superiority, know it all, and general infallible attitude ( in all social classes, ups. not allowed to use that term, that brings me to nr. 10
10. ridiculous use of political correctness when considering nr. 6&7
11.hostility, agression, bullying behaviour
12. inflexible job market due to specific group personality traits
13. environment protection as the only belief system
14. no true international feeling that shapes the city except tourism and maybe some startups, and no, I don't count the + 300 galleries, that's another story.
15. anti-technology mindset
16. lack of savoir vivre, search for bargains
OP. - I guess it's up to everyone to experience their share of misery. People have a hard time to believe YOU, a biased individual, versus all the media praising and marketing - you don't have a chance against, that's why don't EVEN bother. My doctor from bln said she deals all the time with depressed patients, and she suggested me actually to leave the city instead of taking pills. It would be interesting to see a statistic regarding mental health issues, scientific, OBEJECTIVE medical evaluation not by berlin "standards"- but hey, that would affect the berlins reputation and the money it brings.
"My doctor from bln said she deals all the time with depressed patients, and she suggested me actually to leave the city instead of taking pills. " pahahhahaahahahhaahha! hilare! She is right.... and the problem is that Berlin markets itself as a "hip, artistic, forward - thinking haven" ...this is a complete LIE.... which is why its good that this website exists.... most people end up investing in moving there and are trapped financially and cannot leave...-I personally left with DEBT which I am leaving in GERMANY after being ripped off by landlors, taxman, employers .... fornicate Berlin and fornicate Germany .... a horrible country on its way out.....
Add to your list a compulsive aversion to any problem-solving mindset. It's really incredible the lengths to which Germans will go to avoid fixing the most glaringly obvious problems in their day-to-day lives and instead just try to ignore everything that bothers them.
Everyone from the US or so calls itself an EXPAT here, but when it comes to other nationalities, they are immigrants. Oh, pleaaaase... Berline filthy bunch of arrogants phonies!
Negative conotation of wording. “Immigrant” sounds like a lower life form when “Expat” is somehow respectable. Some labels used... that’s all. Ignorance and racism at their best. You can be a idiot with fried brain on drugs, but called an “Expat” if you come from an Western background. If you’re a smart, educated professional that actually brings added value to this poophole you’re called an “Immigrant” if you come from different background, maybe Eastern or something else. Nothing too deep :)
its called RACISM...GERMANS have proven throughout history that they uncultured, stupid, aggressive ...pricks, these days they will pick on your ethnicity regardless of what contribute to their stupid disgusting ...country leave.......best to leave while you can....
To be honest, the average German doesn't even know the word expat. I have never once in almost 10 years been called an expat by a German, just a foreigner or "Ausländer". And I honestly don't really care what these cucks think of me. And, by the way, I'm the most American person in Berlin.
I think many just don't know how to express it properly. "Im Ausland Lebender" just doesn't appear so easily. In a way the word Ausländer isn't really bad. It just always connotated with the word raus, it's got this get out of here thing about it. And even that in itself is not a bad thing because it's at least not directly too healthy for a nation when things are all over the place and many other countries simply don't do it like that. They just came from a different pov where the get out thing is more connected to their own well being. It's a lot about not expressing things the right way.