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Are there any decent parts of Berlin? Places you could raise a family without fearing your wife and kids wills be sexually assaulted when they leave the apartment? I have actually never really seen any event here I would consider wholesome. Do upstanding and moral values have any place in Berlin?
But of course.Right wing thugs dont have tattooes ,piercings ,smoke cigarettes and take poop loads of narcotics.They also graduate to bouncing at clubs and bars and support large scale drug laundering money through these venues. So proud you should be of your little hitler youth.
I am "Left Wing" and I guess a bit of a pervert. However I respect those around me who wish to live in the manner in which they choose. I am Hetero and single though I have married once and fallen in love a good deal many times. If a woman wants to have an adult relationship with me that is her choice.I sometimes think people from the "Right" are afraid of everything.Including freedom of choice.And that is what scares me about Germany.NO FREE THOUGHT. P.S. I work and pay taxes so go fornicate yourself.
You go F your-self. If you are an anarchist and think that people should be allowed to do anything they want with no laws, go and set up your own commune and see how long it will last. I'll give it one week, before you start making rules to keep the LeftTurd thugs under control. F you and F all your Lefty F-wit pseudo anarchist friends, living off state money. The only violence I've ever witnessed in Berlin was perpetrated by aggressive, Lefty, brain-dead thugs.
Such a stupid question, I don' know why I even bother to answer it, Because like all self-righteous guilt ridden fascist lefties, you can't admit that your so called "Alternative" tribes are Left inspired and have nothing to do with conservative values, of work, commitment, sincerity and family .
You think all people who don't agree with your "liberal" pathetic, childish lifestyles are to be shut up by taunts of calling them White Priders, yet you will march with Gay Priders. So what the F are you saying, on one hand it's wrong to be proud of your culture, and on the other hand, because it;'s trendy, you say it's wonderful that gays are proud of their culture, even if they lead selfish, degenerate lifestyles.
Berlin Lefties are a bunch of phoneys and sheep. If you want to find sexism in Berlin, just have a conversation with a lefty Marxist Feminist and witness the putrid male-hating, misandist sewage that spews forth from her mouth.
And that's the reason most people hate Berlin.
Was considering moving to Berlin until I found this website. Is the city really that bad? Or is everyone just exaggerating?
Well, I saw that colleges are free in Germany and did some research, then saw they even have some degrees completely in English. Seems better to pay just the cost of living plus $1000 per year in school fees rather than ten times that in the US. Anyone know if the schools are any good and how Americans are treated in Berlin?
College in Germany won't be free for non-EU foreigners starting this year. I think the fees will be above 1000 euros for a semester, which is still better than an American university.
And yes, Berlin is a shithole. There is no money, and no normal people. Stay away, if you are a decent human being.
Well, is the education offered in Germany even decent? Are German degrees recognized elsewhere? Would I actually learn anything or are German schools just diploma mills? With costs at less than $1,500 per semester I cannot really imagine much quality or innovation being possible.
Even for all-english programs at püublic Universities the reqirements are some sufficiently German language skills. English programs at private universities are rather 3500 Euro per semester, almost $ 4000 without accomodation. And none international reputation.
If you think you are the smartes guy on earth, just discovered that the German universities are cheap and there could be a chance for living in a cool city and getting a decent education for a bargain, than your are right in Berlin. You
will be feel good with all the stupid international hipsters, who had the same plan and finally strand in Berlin.
This forum is over the top. Probably a few of the same people posting repeatedly, especially the one(s) that sound like they're members of the NPD/NDP or bored Trump supporters that found their way here. That said, it also overhyped elsewhere. It has many issues and if you read between the lines even in places where people are more positive, you will see some things repeatedly mentioned. 1. The unemployment is too high. This is not an issue if you have a job but is if you plan on looking for one after arriving. You may also get a bit annoyed that so many people seem to be on permanent vacation if you do have a full time job. 2. Weather sucks 8 months of the year, especially winter. Lately it's also been flooding pretty bad in the summer. 3. A lot of cold and rude people. The locals take pride in it and the hipsters think it makes them cooler. It's generally harder to befriend Germans. 4. Harder to advance in companies if you're not a German citizen, especially if you're not fluent in German. German isn't that easy to learn. 5. Some areas are really ugly. This may be appealing if you're coming from a nice suburb or clean city and are young and feeling rebellious, but I think most quickly grow out of thinking it's cool and then you realize how crappy it looks compared to much nicer looking German cities and other European capitals. 6. Cost of living keeps going up, while the economy is still weak and wages and salaries are low. Though it's still not as bad as other major capital cities. The city is pretty spread out and if you're very open to where you live, you can find some good deals still. The problem is, do you want to live an hour from where most young international people are living? Finding an apartment in Kreuzberg or Neukölln is much more difficult. 7. If you're from a smaller city and used to feeling special for being into cool music and art, you're going to feel like a tiny drop in the ocean in Berlin. Don't expect a welcoming party and tons of cool people immediately befriending you. It's pretty cliche at this point.
That said, every city has its own list of issues. You're still young, so you can make the most out of it and see other cities around Europe, maybe you'll find one you like better and move there if you can find a company that will hire you. Maybe you'll be one of those who loves Berlin despite the above issues and stay for much longer (if you can find a company that will hire you after finishing university).
If you find dirty, tattooed and pierced faced, fascist lefty alcoholics and drug addicts, interesting, definitely come here, you'll love it, until you end up in a lunatic asylum.
It's a braindead, unquestioning Clinton supporter, extreme lefty paradise. By the way, they stink, unless you catch them on their monthly bath day, when it's their turn to use the bathroom in their wonderful rat infested squat.
Oh, and if you come with your girlfriend or wife, within about three to six months, she'll be suggesting you have an open relationship, because of some crazy Tantric Yoga guru brainwashing her with f'ed up lefty values. If you are a sincere person, with moderate or conservative values, stay away. By the way, anyone telling you that there are extreme right-wingers in Berlin, are actually talking about extreme fascist lefties.
don't listen to the guy who hates on the far left. They won't threaten you. If they decide to do a protest, just move your nice car out of their way becasue they do like their molotov cocktails.
My advice is to come to berlin in winter for a week or two to test the waters. It's extra misrable here in winter.
It's a dirty and overcrowded city with high unemployment and poverty. If you have programming or IT skills, you can get a decent job but it won't be easy.
I would consider trying finding educational programs in the south. There is more industry down there but apartments are more expensive especially in munich.
Again, the far left is not a huge problem in everyday life. The unemployment, coldness, rudeness, isolation, filth, and poverty are bigger problems here.
Just be prepared to be paying high taxes to fund the Lefty "anarchist" life-style :o))))
If you like aggressive Lefties who go around throwing molotov cocktails at people's cars who have actually worked for a living, then you will love Berlin. If you like to look at alcoholic and drug addict Lefties smelling up the subways with pisss and shitt-stained pants, because no one will employ them, than welcome to this wonderful "Liberal" city. Let's see how long you last, before you start doubting your sanity..
By the way, if you are a male, you'd better be ready to be shamed for your gender by sexist, bigoted FEMINISTS. F the left and everything it stands for, go Moderate Right, where the real people are, not the Left full of Peter Pans who will never grow up. Enter at your peril.
Replying to the dude/dudette at the top, here.
I agree with your level headed assessment - and especially with your comment (and the comments of many others) who have pointed out that the alt right and NDP are clearly using this anonymous forum in force, just like they do with 4Chain. I mean c'mon, on EVERY FREAKIN POST someone replies with a nearly-identical, badly spelled, mis-punctuated rant against "Anarchist leftist scum rapist Zionist n*gger drug dealers" and etc. These posts are so similar in form and content that I am 1000% certain they are the work of one very motivated, or very well paid, troll who doesn't does not even live here.
However, you are maybe gilding the lily too much. I've been here years and each year the city has become more desperate and hostile. The first two years here, I never saw violence, now I witness it almost daily... in the past week I was personally shoved twice by pissy German women about my age, just because I broke their beloved rule that you can stand anywhere you like on the escalator, even if a million people are trying to get past you. For the record in both cases I said Entschuldigung nicely and carefully slipped past, and then was shoved. This year is the WORST. I fully expect there to be rioting here in the near future if this sort of hostility goes on.
Why all the hostility? Well, it ain't the fault of refugees or dealers, both of whom have had a noticeably less visible presence in the past year or so, due to a general retraction of the city's former liberal stance on immigration and drugs. What I do think is a huge, but mundane and unsensational problem, is the lack - and decline - of good jobs with long term prospects (more people are being hired these days but the contracts are increasingly temporary and minimum wage; I cannot remember the last time a friend found a good permanent contract job being advertised, let alone was able to get it). Two, the rents are skyrocketing, even in the properties that have always been rent controlled by housing associations. This is just making everyone feel ripped off and disgruntled and being that Berlin was never a friendly place to begin with, it's now unfriendly on steroids.
When the attack at Breitscheidplatz happened last year I actually wasn't surprised, because tensions have been very clearly rising here for about the past 1-2 years. I was apalled but not suprised. That tells you a lot about what the atmosphere here is like right now and I don't think there is any need to sugar coat it to people who are thinking of coming here. They'll just end up hating the place that much more.
I cannot wait to leave but also cannot afford to, so if you do move here, HAVE SAVINGS for a return ticket. You'll probably need it before long, even if you're happy for a few months.
Why no free speech in Germany?
Because it is:
-an occupied country that got a constitution forced onto them after they got their butts ravaged in the last war.
-a country full of conformists who don't really care about anything other than working, beer and football.
-a nation of robots. And since robots don't have any real opinions, they don't really need free speech.
German here. Germans are the most afraid of getting called Nazi, as they have been brainwashed into believing that Hitler was the devil himself. As such it's extremely easy to pass anti free speech laws under the guise of fighting neo nazis, hate speech etc. and there won't be any pushback.
Hey guys, ex-berliner here. Visiting HELL now and this place is even worse than Berlin. Also I breathe through my mouth.
Hey guys, ex-berliner here. Visiting SOFIA, BULGARIA now and this place is even worse than Berlin. Full of con artists, ugly and filthy... Berlin is heaven in comparison. NEVER thought I would say this.
Hey guys, ex-berliner here. Visiting Aleppo now and this place is even worse than Berlin.
Hey guys, ex-berliner here. Visiting SOFIA , BULGARIA now and this place is even worse than Berlin. Also I breathe through my mouth.
yes sofia looks at first a ghetto nightmare, but that is only in the communist era "blocks" 25% of the city is nice though the buildings are mostly shabby, lots of cafes, restaurants but kind of hidden, avoid the 75% commy block nightmare and you'll have a nice time
Hey guys, ex-berliner here. Visiting Aleppo now and this place is even worse than Berlin. Also I breathe through my mouth.
Ex Berliner here. Currently sitting at Sofia Airport. This place is 200x worse than Berlin. Never thought it would be possible to even think this...So you are all only trapped in the 2nd worst city in Europe.
you must have taken a budget airline that only lands at Sofia airport Terminal 1`, Terminal 2 is quiet nice, actually better then Frankfurt airport in terms of niceness,Sofia is a hole that is true, rural areas are nice, Bulgarians will overcharge you, Gypsies will pickpocket you..not much difference
I Wonder which Nationality have the guy who write here constantly about "lefties" "muslims" "third world scum".You dumbass.Go to a Far right Forum Sucker :)
If you can't handle free speech, you should go to a safe space where your politically correct world will not be triggered by facts.
No one hates law abiding respectful people. I hate muslim gangs and african drug sellers who create extra crime and no go zones. They are thugs and scum who make this city even worse. Go to the kottbusser tor at night and see that I am right.
I feel bad for law abiding refugees especially the ones who have to live in bad conditions in Berlin.
I feel bad for afghan and Iraqi men who have to suck german penises in zoologischer garten to support themselves because they ended up in a poorly managed with low employment city like Berlin.
LeftTurds hate free speech, because it can expose their fascist hatred of anyone who disagrees with their Marxist Feminist BS. Berlin is full of them. They get brainwashed at University, after they are brainwashed at school to believe they are the shiit of the earth for world war 2, the teachers are relentless, they even force them to go to Auschwitz prisoner of war camps before they leave school. .
Wahaha now I know that God exists:
Genesis 7: "Then the flood came upon the earth for forty days, and the water increased and lifted up the ark, so that it rose above the earth. The water prevailed and increased greatly upon the earth, and the ark floated on the surface of the water. The water prevailed more and more upon the earth, so that all the high mountains everywhere under the heavens were covered."
Maybe God wanted to re-do Berlin...
Oooops!. Hate speech banned in Germany. And who decides what is hate speech or just challenging the status quo. My god, it really is time to lave Germany and go somewhere with free-speech.
If you're wondering how this could possibly come about, read the 4th last paragraph in the attachment for a clue.
www.breitbart.com/london/2017/06/30/germany-passes-online-hate-speech-law/
If you've ever witnessed how terrible German mothers are at parenthood then you will immediately understand why the people here are the way they are. They basically ignored their children and do nothing at all for them in the first weeks after birth. Then, after about 6 weeks, they turn the kids over to overcrowded, state-run Kindergartens (payed for by the taxpayers of course) and completely absolve themselves of any motherly duties at all. Sure, they still have to transport their kids to and from the institutions, but even then they complain about how much of a trouble it is - even if they are still unemployed. And speaking of kindergartens - I have heard some really horrifying stories about what goes on there. Not only the well documented cases like the sex-kindergartens run by the Green party in the 1980's, I have also heard of so many cases of abuse it hurts. By the time the kids get into school at around 6 the parents step it up and make them walk there on their own because they are probably too busy getting drunk before noon. Have you ever seen the per capita deaths attributed to alcohol? At least Germany is a world leader somewhere. Anyway, this at least explains two things:
1. Germans are all forced to conform from an extremely early age which is why they all have the same personality
2. They receive no love which is probably one reason why Germany has 50% more autism than the rest of the world.
Now that Germany is at least in theory doing economically well (unless you look at per capita wages compared to other developed nations!) maybe Germany can focus some of its attention to mental health and developing a society that isn't robotic. Highly doubtful though. They will probably just invite more refugees, spend more on colleges to further indoctrinate near-adults, shift energy production even more to coal and invest more in recycling services (which, by the way, are pretty worthless. if 100% of recyclables were recycled it would reduce waste by a mere 5%).
I totally agree!! I'm a parent in this city and parenting here is a quite uninvolved thing here. For being caring and involved with my kids, they make me feel like a helicopter mom. I often question if they even love their children... letting kids sleep under stairs while being inside the apartment, leaving kids alone at playgrounds for hours... a boy got hurt and had blood everywhere!! His parents weren't there. Other parents only stared at the boy and nobody did anything. So I walked over to him, calmed him down and helped him clean up. This 7 year old was so upset! After about 30 mins, the father arrived and I explained to him what happened. This german father completely ignored me and looked at me like I was dirt. What the fornicate is wrong with this people???????
Some things don't hit you until you leave Berlin. For instance, for over 1 year during my time in Berlin, I didn't flirt with anyone or have any kind of playful banter. I came back home and people knew how to flirt, be playful, expressive, make me laugh, etc. it's something so human but entirely missing in Berlin. Germans do not/cannot flirt to save their life and the expats are too much of a "lost soul" type to be emotionally healthy enough to be warm to people. This "we Germans are too intellectual and deep to have small talk" extends to being unable to chat up strangers, make warm connection, flirt, be happy and playful. Such a cold, robotic place filled with empty people.
Also: I have left Berlin but have no bad feelings for Germans. I just pity them. They are like angry children whose parents just never showed them love or affection, so they constantly lash out over stupid trivial things, always passive aggressive, because they are unable to express their thoughts or feelings in a healthy way. Not sure if all of Germany is as deranged as Berlin though. The expats are attracted to Berlin because it's a place where they can be the lowest version of themselves without "judgement". People who don't want to participate in the real world and want to pursue some pipe dream or live in a bubble where they can surround themselves with other degenerate people and degenerate activities without "judgement". Everyone is so "cool" and so "enlightened". Everyone is so sad and empty, lonely, unlovable, because they are selfish and can't give a poop about another person enough to have a real friendship or relationship. And Germans have this idea that people are dying to be like them- if Germany was not an economic powerhouse it would be a ghost town filled with only the most anti social and psychopathic people. Berlin is already half way there.
"They are like angry children whose parents never showed them love or affection, so they constantly lash out over stupid trivial things, always passive aggressive, because they are unable to express their thoughts or feelings in a healthy way"
This fits better without hate. And as bad as it is, they are not always passive aggressive. This is just like a reality check. Reason why it fits better without hate - "no matter" if it surely is about venting and i don't mean to disrespect your feelings when in fact i felt like this many times and not often the way i feel at the moment- is that if you imagine such a person you described reading this perceiving it as hate compared to something at least neutral way of describing things, the one might soothe the other might just come back so to speak or make it worse. Which is though rather something to realize after venting. So I'm just saying therefore. You even tried to actually show up where it comes from and didn't intend to like hate somebody for not being loved as a child.
"People who don't want to participate in the real world and want to pursue some pipe dream or live in a bubble where they can surround themselves with other degenerate people and degenerate activities without "judgement"
There is no "real " world - which everyone should adapt to in the first place. You can and should be whatever you like, and develop your own personality without trying to fit in some social conventions. Unfortunately in Berlin this went waaaay wrong in the opposite direction, in the sens that there is a conformist anticonformism attitude that leaves very little space to creativity.